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i can find all the pistol bullets but no rifle bullets for my Stalking rifle. Can someone help me out?
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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What cartridge is your rifle chambered for?


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Hawk bullets has some
9mm (.353, .354, & .356) Round Tips
200 grains x .030 RT..........$40.00
250 grains x .030 RT..........$41.50

I'm also curious to know what you are shooting,

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Posts: 937 | Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | Registered: 09 June 2009Reply With Quote
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It is a mauser made up in Germany from a bolt action WWI rifle in 8x57. Made up into a stalking rifle w/ dst and claw mounts. Bob
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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It is chambered in 9X57.
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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Are the hawk bullets jacketed or cast lead??
 
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here is the website http://www.hawkbullets.com/maintest.htm


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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all this is very informative but it doesnt get me any closer to finding 9mm rifle bullets. the gun is chambered in 9Z57
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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contacted Hawk bullets. Thank You very much for the info. It was very helpful.
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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I suggest you try clicking on the link provided and going to the website.

You will see that they offer a bullet that is compatible with .353, .354 & .356 rifles.

Perhaps you are not aware but 1 or 2 thousands of an inch will not adversely effect your rifle; i.e., you can shot a .356 bullet in a .354 rifle and you can shoot a .353 bullet in a .354 rifle. When shooting the larger bullet do not use max loads.

My recommendation is read their website and them call or email them.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I've used a 9x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer for a number of years. The bore is .354.
Hawk bullets (jacketed) work fine. Another alternative is to have a die made to resize/bump (not sure of the proper term) .358 bullets to .354. CH made me such a die and it works quite well. I've had no bullet separation problems. My rifle likes 250gn .358 Hornady round nose jacketed bullets sized in the .354 die. I lube the bullets heavily and run them through the die on a Rockchucker press. There is actually some spring back so the measured size is actually .355.
 
Posts: 313 | Location: Alaska to Kalispell MT | Registered: 06 January 2005Reply With Quote
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I suggest you slug the bore and do a chamber cast.

I've had several 9x57's and the bore sizes can/do vary substantially. Most of mine have averaged .356". I have used .358's in mine to good effect. But I have seem em as small as .354".

Just make sure your chamber is large enough at the neck to release the bullet.

One of my 9x57's came to me as a 9,3x57. I bought it as such and it came with ammo and spent casings. After slugging the bore and doing a chamber cast I determined the rifle was actually a 9x57 with a .356" bore. The previous owner had been shooting Norma 9,3x57 factory loads through it for years. The chamber neck was large enough to allow the seated .366" bullets to enter and release freely in the chamber. The leade being sufficiently long to work.

I came into another 9x57 later and out of curiosity tried chambering a 9,3x57 and it too chambered easily. Seems large chamber necks and long leades were fairly common. But don't take that as a given, check yours, don't make assumptions as to your rifle's bore size.




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Its a 9X57 mauser w/ double set triggers and claw mounts. ....A stalking rifle
 
Posts: 9 | Location: Tennessee | Registered: 08 November 2014Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the heads up. I will make a chamber casting and slug the bore before I get any bullets for reloading. I love your prone shooter.
 
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As others have suggested, slug your bore first.

For odd sized bullets, contact Steve Schroeder, 619-423-3523 or 619-423-8124.


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I have a 9X57 and Hornady 200 & 250s run through a Lee .355 sizing die works great and are very accurate. They shoot noticably better than DKT 240gr bullets a friend sent me.


I tend to use more than enough gun
 
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Originally posted by waterrat:
I have a 9X57 and Hornady 200 & 250s run through a Lee .355 sizing die works great and are very accurate. They shoot noticably better than DKT 240gr bullets a friend sent me.


I used lee sizing dies for making other bullets works well
 
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Hi

I am using .358 Hornady bullets in all my 9x57 no issues just start low and work up your load.
lovely cal.

Cheers
 
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As mentioned you can slug your bore as a first step.

Personally, since there are a zillion quality 35 caliber bullets out there, I'd experiment with getting some and resizing them. If you feel adventurous here are a couple of resizing dies on clearance at midway:

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?...gorydimensionid=5707

You can figure out a jig that fits in either a reloading press or an arbor press, or you could probably just clamp it in a vise and drive them through with a rod and a mallet.


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I'm still waiting for delivery of the gun and then I can begin to determine bore size and go from ther. Thanks foir your input. Bob
 
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