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Is anyone familiar enough with this cartridge to know what parent brass to make it of? Especially if it can be formed from fireforming a suitable undersized parent case. Anyone know? Thanks, Tom | ||
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Looks like it can be formed from 9.3x72R. Ken often says the reforming must be done in a special die. This is not always the case (pardon the pun.) My guess is you could trim first and then form in the 8x58R sizing die with a liberal amount of Imperial Sizing Wax. MM | |||
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Apparently Howell didn't have what he considered reliable numbers for the Danish Krag, so it's not in his book. The Danish Krag is listed in Cartridges of the World. It looks like you could make cases from .45-70, but the neck would be rather short. This was a military cartridge and there are surplus rolling blocks readily available, so I have to believe you can get ready formed brass. OK, HDS has them, but it's Bertram stuff, which means it's pricey and of so-so reputation. Buffalo Arms sells both the Bertram and stuff they've reformed (probably from .45-70); I'd try the latter. B.A. also has dies, loaded ammo. and even surplus rolling blocks for sale. | |||
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Thanks, "asdf". I'd forgotten about Buffalo Arms, even though I had bought from them before. They have the brass alright. I believe the other poster with the drawing showing is a different cartridge..as the Danish one is a bottleneck type, not straight, tapered case. Its correctly defined as the 8x58R Danish Krag. Best Regards, Tom | |||
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I'ts not that bad with 45-70 brass. I turned the rim down and annealed the neck, ran it straight through the 8x58RD sizer from RCBS and the result is on the left. | |||
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The rim is thicker with the .45-70, at least according to C.o.t.W., and your photo seems to bear this out. If the headspace is on the rim and if this headspace is tight on bisonland's gun, the .45-70 rim may need to be thinned, not the most trivial operation. If the head space is on the shoulder in the Krag, the rim recess is likely sloppy and all will be well for bisonland. For what gun did you make your Krag brass? It may be the same series as bisonland's, which would suggest smooth sailing for him. The samples of B.A. reformed brass I've looked at (e.g. .35 WCF) are given a slight extra draw to get the correct length and the rim is machined to the correct diameter and thickness. | |||
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Thanks, "the Dane". Your post makes sense & seems like a good way to go. I've been to Copenhagen, used to be a professional big ship's navigator. I liked the Danish food that I tried at a major hotel, near the "shopping street that is closed to car traffic. Great cusine! Best Regards, Tom aka "Bisonland" | |||
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Henrik: I also wonder if you can possible confirm whether the 2 Rolling Block Rifles are of Danish Origin? I have them listed on http://www.gunbroker.com, item number: 42096509. They are supposed to be Danish Military Rifles & are stamped 1874 & 1875, presumably dates of the rifles manufacture. Any knowledge of this? Thanks, Tom | |||
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The Danish army went from a roughly 45-65 Rolling Block directly to a Krag/Jørgensen 8x58RD in 1889. The Swedes went from a roughly 50-70 Rolling Block to a modified Rolling Block in 8x58RD in 1889. They then went to the M96 Mauser in 1894. So the Rollies are defenetly Swedish. Check this sides out: http://www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/rb.html http://www.angelfire.com/in2/dutchman/SwedeRB.html http://www.pettsons.net/ This should keep you busy for a couple of hours. | |||
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"The Dane": Many thanks. The first link you gave shows exactly the type Swede Rolling Blocks I have on auction...the stock is of the bottom type shown in the photo. According to the "Dutchman" who describes them, they are very underpriced as I have 2 that are selling together for around $500, where the "Dutchman" raves over their quality, and should be around $400 each! Thanks for info! Tom | |||
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