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4198 for 45-70?

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24 January 2005, 00:08
gcf
4198 for 45-70?
Been using 3031 for load development for my Ruger #1-S. Primary objectives are: 1. accuracy, 2. down range energy transfer, 3. shootability.

Guess I should point out that here in S. TX, boars & nilgai are about the hardest critters to knock down.

Excellent results w/ the gas checked Cast Performance 405, but after working though both levels #2 & #3 w/ the Speer 350 FNSP, I am not too pleased w/ the accuracy results.

My thought is that a faster powder might provide better accuracy results (at a moderate velocity) w/ lighter 300 & 350 jacketed bullets.

I have noted that many members of this forum seem to use a lot of 4198 in their 45-70's. So the question here is: Which one? IMR-4198 or H-4198? Inquiring minds need to know....

Input greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!


Regards - GCF
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24 January 2005, 00:17
ricciardelli
I use IMR-4198 in all my loads.


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24 January 2005, 01:06
Bob G
I have used 3031 and IMR 4198 and settled on XMP 5744 Accurate Arms Powder in both my 45/70 and Shiloh Sharps 45/120. Great accuracy.


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24 January 2005, 08:28
jackfish
H4198 seems to work just a bit better for me in 300 grain load for the 45-70. H322 gets the nod for 405 grain bullets.


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24 January 2005, 08:58
mags
I've had good luck with both H4198 and IMR4198 IN 300gr. jacketed and cast bullets in my Browning 1885. Loads have run from 35.5 to 48.0gr., but I prefer to stop around 43.0gr. for "comfort". I also like RL7 with 50.0gr. and a 300HP Hornady bullet, which is usually listed as a top load for "levers"; no problem at all for your #1.
24 January 2005, 09:00
rutten
I use Acc 2230 with the 405 RN Gas Check and H335 with the 350gr Hornady jacketed RN. I have worked both loads now for the past 6 months and have good accuracy with both.
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24 January 2005, 09:09
DigitalDan
RX7 is awesome with 510 gr loads, don't know about the light bullets though. Never shot one...




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24 January 2005, 16:44
El Deguello
IMR 4198 is useful in the .45/70, BUT I have always gotten better performance from IMR 3031 and RE 7.


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25 January 2005, 06:03
gcf
quote:
Originally posted by El Deguello:
IMR 4198 is useful in the .45/70, BUT I have always gotten better performance from IMR 3031 and RE 7.


Have you used the 3031 loads in a single shot rifle application? If so, have you found any accuracy variations when loading with & with out a crimp?


Regards - GCF
"Sometimes you make eight - Sometimes you hit dirt"