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28 September 2003, 08:24
bowman
Help ! huge reloading problem BAR
Trying to reload for my 300WSM BAR. Problem is I cannot get resized cases out of the gun when I let the bolt slam into battery! If I slowly let the bolt go, the bolt does not go completely into battery. I have to push it all the way in. I have tried varying the depth of the resizing die with no help. Cases are trimmed to length. Using Hornady dies. Am I missing something here?
Any help is appreciated.
28 September 2003, 08:52
Car Knocker
I suggest you coat a round that you know will not fit with a Magic Marker and then attempt to chamber it to pinpoint just what the problem is. The marker will be rubbed off at any points that are binding. Just a guess, but I suspect the base is not being sufficiently sized and may require an undersized sizing die.
28 September 2003, 09:00
Canadian reloarder
I suggest you try using small base dies. Most manafactures supply these dies. They bring the case back to the original size of virgin brass. They are reccomended for most semi-autos, lever & pump action rifles. These actions do not have the camming action of bolt actions. Hope this helps.
28 September 2003, 09:35
bowman
Tried marking the case. Nothing definitive. Asked Midway about small base dies. Will let you folks know what happens. Right now I am pissed. Oh yea, miked the resized case and a factory case. The base of the resized case is .005 bigger than the factory case. Can this be the problem? All other dimensions were good.
28 September 2003, 14:47
PEI ROB
I had trouble with my Hornady 300WSM dies as well. I had to screw the die down so the shellholder is jamming hard into the die base, before full stroke. I thought I was going to break my press [Eek!] The Hornady dimensions are narrow so therefore the brass flows up and the shoulder has to be bumped back. I bought Redding dies and [Smile]
28 September 2003, 15:38
Hobie
I've got a friend who had a 7mm Rem Mag BAR. After doing all sorts of manipulations including the SB dies, he has conceded to using factory ammo.
28 September 2003, 15:58
wildboar
I had the same problem few years ago, with my BAR in .300 Win Mag. I had to "shorten" the resizing die with the lathe, 2/10 mm at the bottom, since that no more problems. I believe that BARs have chamber dimensions on the minimal size - Lorenzo.
29 September 2003, 05:17
wildboar
I forgot to say that I found no need of "small base" dies. - Lorenzo
29 September 2003, 15:11
mstarling
Used SB died hard against the shell holder for a .338 Win Mag BAR. Worked fine.
30 September 2003, 03:39
Sabot
Instead of milling down your die base, mill down the shell holder...you just want the die to come a bit closer to the base. If it doesn't work, you still have your dies intact.
30 September 2003, 03:57
jpb
quote:
Originally posted by Sabot:
Instead of milling down your die base, mill down the shell holder...you just want the die to come a bit closer to the base. If it doesn't work, you still have your dies intact.

Even easier (but more expensive): Redding makes a set of shellholders that vary in height for making adjustments to obtain the proper effective headspace.

Sinclair International carries them.

jpb
30 September 2003, 07:55
DamnYankee
I'm using RCBS small base dies in my .30-06 BAR, no problems at all, it seats the round fine in the chamber and will cycle through the whole magazine just fine, I would try those before I started grinding on my dies or shellplates.
30 September 2003, 19:13
Tiny
Not to be smartbutt but you may need to make sure your Resizeing die is set Correctly for Full Lenght Resizeing.
I may be wrong but have been told you don't need a Small Base Resizeing Die for the BAR.I know my uncle has a 270win Bar and uses Small Base Dies,don't think he has tried the Reg.dies to see.
I haven't saw or heard of any Small Base Dies for the WSM yet,but they have come out with them.
01 October 2003, 03:14
bowman
I have found the instructions with the Hornady dies to be very confusing. |I will try to adjust the die lower into the press and see what happens. Still no word from Mideay on the SB dies.

|Thanks to all of you.