Pros and cons good or bad if good what is a good way to use them in a new rifle? .223 bolt action 1 in 12 twist 24 inch if any of that makes a differance.

my personal opinion only:
Moly coated bullets are a fad.....it's been a long fad but it's still a fad...it'll go away in time as it some times takes a long time for folks to discover....."there's no meat in this sandwich"

Further molybdenum is toxic and why one wants to drive that through a deer and eat it later is beyond me when it's totally unnecessary.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
my personal opinion only:
Moly coated bullets are a fad.....it's been a long fad but it's still a fad...it'll go away in time as it some times takes a long time for folks to discover....."there's no meat in this sandwich"

Further molybdenum is toxic and why one wants to drive that through a deer and eat it later is beyond me when it's totally unnecessary.

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Originally posted by krazycurt:
Pros and cons good or bad if good what is a good way to use them in a new rifle? .223 bolt action 1 in 12 twist 24 inch if any of that makes a differance.

Hello krazycurt. Welcome to the AR forums. I see this is your first post.

Moly coating seems to really be based on personal preference. There are many members here, and the owner, Saeed, who use moly alot if not always.

I personally do not use moly and at the present time, have no plans to try it. There seem to be valid reasons to do so, like bore wear, accuracy, etc., however, There are also cleaning issues when using moly. Perhaps someone who uses moly coating will chime in soon.

I'm not a bench shooter, and I don't imagine I'll ever "shoot out" a barrel any time soon. If I do, I'd rather just have a new bbl installed anyway. Just my preference.

There may also be issues as to whether or not you should "break-in" a new rifle with moly coated bullets. Again, break-in seems to be controversial. Some are "old-school" (not to be offensive in any way), and will tell you, either the bbl will shoot or it won't. Then, there are those who follow break-in procedures to the letter. I'm not clear as to whether or not moly coated bullets would be good for the initial firings.

My non-moly bullets seem to work well on game.

Welcome to AR

Do a search and you will see a lot of info on Moly bullets.

I use them in my Palma and Long Range Rifle and in my Service Rifle.

Also in my 223 when I shoot prairie dogs.

I think it helps with barrel life. It does cut down on friction, ie the barrel stays cooler when shooting multiple rounds.

It increased barrel life quite a bit in tests done by Norma.

Also I can shoot more rounds between cleanings as the barrel fouls less with Moly bullets.

I have not had any cleaning issues, I just clean like normal.

A friend who loads 223 on a progressive machine had some rounds without powder.
When fired the bullets stuck in the barrel.

He had the same problem once with moly bullets. When he tried to shoot those rounds the primer alone was enough to drive the moly bullet out of the barrel.

He did a test, he loaded some more rounds, this time without powder on purpose, the moly bullets always cleared the barrel.

That is what convinced me to try them.

I use Moly and will ALWAYS use it until something better comes along. It is a bit aggravating until you learn the Tricks, but it is well worth the effort for me.

I would not recommend it to folks who only shoot a small amount of ammo on a yearly basis.

Best of luck to you.

Thanks for your replies Ive been an avid shooter for more than 40yrs just getting into these forums. I thought moly bullets were to season the bore so cleaning would be easier.This is my first bolt action in .223 as I have 2 bushmasters so I decided to stay in the same caliber.Thanks again for your replies.

I'd like to know anyone's opinion on "Danzak." Not sure if that is spelled correctly either. Is it another form of moly?

I saw a youtube video where a guy was shooting his 6mm Bergers coated with "danzak" and set some record.

Danzac, i believe is titanium disulfide, has similar properties to Moly. Seems to be a bit less messy but not much. I got some "liquid danzac" a few years ago, a suspension in alchol for treating barrels, then found out what it was and got some tech grade powder and started coating bullets. I do not need shot to peen bullets in tumbler, just bullets and "danzac" powder.

I also have a quantit;y of Speer factory moly coated bullets and cannot tell the difference in shooting. I like the appearance of the danzac coating better, more of a dark silvery gray than the black of moly.

I did burnish some onto thre bolt of my Colt Sporter( AR-15) and it seems to be smoother in action and does not build up as much carbon when shooting.

Let me edit and correct, Danzac is tungsten disulfide, not titanium.

Jeff

I went with molly when I started varmint shooting. I think it helps barrel life. I don't molly coat myself but rather buy molly coated bullets. I use Hoppe Elite and perform my normal cleaning.

I use moly coated bullets for loads above 3500 fps. It seems to work well - especially with a stainless barrel.

When I clean the barrel, I start the process with a few passes of a bronze brush and Kroil to loosen up the excess moly.