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Does anyone know if anyone makes a .366 bullet in 225 gr or lighter?
 
Posts: 5338 | Location: Bedford, Pa. USA | Registered: 23 February 2002Reply With Quote
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Norma makes a 232gr and Lapua makes a 220gr.


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GS Custom has several sub-225 grain bullets in 9.3mm.
 
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I think Hawk makes a 195 or 200 grainer.


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Buffalo Arms has a .366" 193 grain flat point - http://www.buffaloarms.com/bro...m=13&catid=93&step=2
 
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thanks to all, bpsteve those are just what I need. I like barnes bullets but 250gr are just too heavy.
 
Posts: 5338 | Location: Bedford, Pa. USA | Registered: 23 February 2002Reply With Quote
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Die Ou Jagter,

Why is the 250 too heavy? What are you hunting?

Curious, as I've found the 286 Nosler partition to be just deadly on whitetails. They open up just fine on everything from tiny piggies to Zebra.


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mstarling, the twists in this old drilling are too slow to stabalize that heavy a bullet. The factory ammo I have is 193 gr bullet. I want to use it on pygmy antelope and wanted the x bullet for less damage, but when I thought it thru I think the slowness of the old 9.3X72R even with flat point will not do too much damage. The worst damage I have ever done to a "little one" was with a borrowed 308. Most have been taken with 338 solids or 16 ga buck from this drilling.
 
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Sellier&Bellot make a 193 grain .364 flat point bullet which is a copy of the original 9.3x72 mm R cartridge typically used in those old drillings. I would presume that thus, your real caliber is .364 and not .366, the latter being the diameter for the more powerful and modern 9.3x74 mm R cartridge. The old 9.3x72 "Försterpatrone" was originally designed for black powder.

If you really need .366, DEGOL in Belgium also makes very high quality RN bullets with 193 grain weight for this diameter.
 
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DUK, Bufffalo Arms web site states their .366 bullets are designed for the 9.3x72R so I hope they work.
 
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Possibly they make it a little "tighter" than the regular .366 bullets. It is known that those 9.3 mm drillings have a relatively large variation in bore diameter. Here, bullets for the modern 9.3x74 mm R, 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 are not to be used in these rifles for being nominally also 9.3 mm, in fact a little thicker.

Anyway, for the 9.3x72 mm a 193 grain/12.5 gram bullet seems to be the way to go. So far, I could not get them to shoot well out of my 9.3x74 mm R rifle. It prefers the larger bullets like the 232 grain Norma or the 250 grain Nosler BT.

The 193 FP bullet kills however even big animals amazingly well. Like I said, the old "Försters" used nothing else to shoot even their biggest stag, moose (in former Eastern Prussia) and wild boar.
 
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Lightest bullets for 9,3 rifle I know, are 9mm Makarov pistol bullets.
 
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DUK, I use the Barnes Triple Shock in 250 gr in my 74R and it loves them. It is a Ruger #1.
 
Posts: 5338 | Location: Bedford, Pa. USA | Registered: 23 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I have a set of barrels for a Blaser B95 combination in 9.3x74 mm R and 12 gauge. A load I developed to simulate the 9.3x72 with the Sellier&Bellot 193 FP bullets and Vihta N110 reaches about 680 m/s (not very consistent) and shoots at 100 groups of about 70 mm, a little less than 3 MOA. I use it in the woods where we shoot most of our game at less than 80 meters so that's alright. I killed a lot of roe deer and even some wild boar with that load, it gives penetration even with wild boar of 60 kg. gutted and kills surprisingly well, wasting no meat at all. I bet you will like it.

The high-power load with the Nosler 250 grain BT shoots in comparison about 50 mm high, I adjusted the scope so that the lighter bullet shoots to POA so that is perfect for longer distances. I always carry one or two just in case but have never used them on game.
 
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I believe the bullet you want is the Norma 200 grain 9.3mm. I have an old box for 100 bullets (88 left) sitting here beside me. It is marked as "9.3mm .365 Diameter 200 grain soft point flat nose" I believe this is the bullet Norma used in their 9.3x72mm ammo when they were loading that cartridge. I have found these bullets at gun shows, old dealer stocks, and on ebay, when they sold components.

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Posts: 188 | Location: Texas, via US Navy & Raytheon | Registered: 17 August 2008Reply With Quote
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German DEVA institute's manual has a couple of loads for the 9.3x72, for the 193 bullets they recommend Vihta N540, N140, SR4759 and IMR3031. Their loads are pressure tested, let me know if you need data.
 
Posts: 8211 | Location: Germany | Registered: 22 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Be careful with bullets for this rifle. The caliber is not .366" (9.28mm), it is .364" (9.25mm). That is not too much of a problem but what will cause a hassle are the bore/groove dimensions. These are 8.75mm/9.25mm compared to the later 9.3 calibers which are 9.00mm/9.28mm. The groove depth on a 9.3x62 for example is .28mm (0.011") where the 9.3x72R has a groove depth of .50mm (0.019"). The problem is that a normal 9.3mm bullet, which is 9.28mm in diameter, has to be engraved to a depth of .50mm to fit down the bore, in addition to the swaging down from 9.28mm to 9.25mm.

You are right about the slow twist. It is 1:16.5" as opposed to the usual 1:14.2" of the later 9.3 calibers. I must see what we can do about this as you are surely not the only one who is shooting/loading for one of these.
 
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