Richard, I can get those hundred(Sellier & Bellot) for approx. 60$ with today�s strong Nkr. I haven�t checked how much it is to send it over to you, but I posted a small packaged with dummies to Belgium the other day, and I had to pay 5$ for that. Number one rule here in Norway is that everything is cheaper over in the US.

Pete

Regrettably, that statement is true for most of Europe ...

Merkels and Sellier & Bellot ammo might be the exception.

Hermann

Pete,
if anyone can suggest me a contact with a good agency for a country where I haven't yet hunted, and this one is, moreover, native of this country, this is the way that I prefer.
And if you can, as I think, you are welcome. If you prefer you can write to my e-mail address.
thank you in advance.
bye

Thanks guys, you were a great help! I did a search for Sellier & Bellot ammo and found 20 rounds for $14.48 at AMMO DEPOT here in the states. I Did not even know someone loaded ammo in this caliber....
Richard

I went to the shooting field yesterday, and shot the first groups with the �Nosler 5P�(see the early post). All 3-shot groups within 50 mm, which is a great improvement, consider the 100 � 130 mm groups I had before. And best of all; velocity were only 2815 f/sec in average. The pressure were low so I can add some more powder next time which probably will improve the accuracy even more(higher velocity). I�ll inform you all.

Pete

Your 222 probably has a 1 in 14" twist rate and is to slow to shoot the 60 grain bullet. Slow twist rates like short stubby light bullets. Fast twist rates like long sleek heavy bullets. You may have limited success if you try more brands of bullets in the 60 grain weight. Compare the length of those bullets and choose the shortest length you can find. Nolser partition bullets will not group well in some rifles because of how they are made with the two lead filled compartments. Look for the shortest length 60 grain bullet you can find. HP and BT bullets will always be longer in length than the soft point and sempoint bullet. Point of fact, the heavier the bullet the longer it must be. The HP or BT design of the same weight will be longer and the HPBT will be the longest of them all.
If you are determined to shoot 60 grain .224 diameter or heavier bullets you must move to a faster twist rate. I suggest you move to a 22-250 with a 1 in 12" twist rate. It does cost a little more to shoot the 22-250 but you will see a dramatic improvement in the results you get harvesting game.

I'm not so sure you'll have to go for the 1:12" twist in the 22-250 though.
I was at the range on sunday testing some molycoated 60 grs. Sierra bullets in my 22-250.
The best load was 34grs.Vv N150. 5 shot at 100 yrd. 0,275"......niiice i think!!
I havent tried those 60 grs Noslers yet though.

Thanks for your information Dennis. The 50 grs Blitz King is another bullet I yet haven�t tried. I bought a box of 63 grs Norma SP factory loads a week ago, and I will soon test the loads in my rifle. Our roe deer(only buck) season starts 10th of august, and I will try the 63 grs Norma SP, but also the Nosler 5P(early post).

Pete

358CPAK,

hurry up, I�m eagerly waiting for you to try the 62gr Norma SP in your .222. If it works as well in your rifle as it does in mine, well...

...then I believe that this is information appreciated by lots of .222 owners, and I will go buy some stocks in Norma since the "60gr bullet problem" in .222 with 14" twists maybe has been solved in Normas bullet design!

I don't feel undergunned when hunting roedeer with that bullet.

/HerrBerg

Hi
Sako loads the 222 rem with 50 gr barnes X which shoots well in my tikka m 70 and penetrate nearly as twice of norma 62 gr r�djur. i haven,t yet used it for roe deer, but may be this fall i,ll do it.
best regards
Danny

HerrBerg, I went to the range yesterday and fired a couple of groups with the Norma ammo(factory). And yes, you gentlemen have spoken the truth. 3 shot groups at 100 meters within 25 � 30 mm. The .222 has more in it than that, but I was in a hurry, so I guess it is possible to improve the groups a bit. I will try again tomorrow, and I will surely try those bullets when our roe deer buck season starts on Saturday.

Ill keep you all updated

Pete

Hey 358PCAK.
Looks like you have a visitor this weekend!!
I'll bring my 22-250 and the die for it to. I'm curious how this 60 grainer will do in my "250".
I'll bring my 460 to, so you can rattle your brain a bit.
I'll take futher contact later today, when I've spoked to my gunsmith.

Great!!!

Have fun with the 62gr Norma SP's and the roe deers! I have only shot one roe deer with that bullet but I have no complaints, a high heart shot through the front leg, rendering a 5,56mm entry wound and a 20 mm exit wound. Just about perfect, IMHO. The buck ran 25 meters and fell.

I think I need to go to the range just to see if the bullets still stabilize... Lots of people here say this can't be...

/HerrBerg

460, 358,

any luck with the 62gr?

/HerrBerg

Thanks for asking HerrBerg. Today I�ll tells you �hard and clear about what hurts�: It�s my left knee. I hurt it badly on a soccer practice Monday (jepp, I am too old for that shit, but it�s fun though), and now I can neither walk nor drive my car. As you see; I�m not able to go hunting, and I don�t know for how long

But nevertheless we had some fine days last weekend (when the roe season started). We had lots of roe deer in our area and one of our guests shot a nice �silver medal� buck. This one was taken with a 6,5x55 and an Oryx bullet

Arild(460Wby) went hunting and shooting with me those days, but unfortunately I wasn�t able to �give him a buck�. I give him my best wishes for the next try.
We had a great time at the shooting field, and for the first time I tried the 460 Wby (maybe that�s why my knee hurts??) Arild tried the 60 grs Nosler in his .22-250. He neither, was able to get those tiny little groups, but it was good enough go hunting with it. His barrel is also a 14�.

I tried a couple of groups with the 62 grs SP myself, and the accuracy is good enough for roe deer hunting (30 � 40 mm).

Pete

I must add:
I had very, very, great time visiting, and hunting together with .358PCAK and his friends. I hope I'll get an other opportunity soon.
Get well soon, Peter!

Shot a roe buck with the 62 gr Norma SP. A high shot in the spine dropped it (of course) at 130 meters and I gave the buck a coup-de-grace with the same load since it was too much alive to be elegantly finished off with the knife.

I also shot a badger, some 20 minutes before the roe buck showed up.

I'm quite lucky, the unprecedented warm august has made the roe deers go seek shelter in the shadows of tthicker bushes. Well, one got in my line of sight anyway!

Shot a roe buck myself yesterday � using the 62 grs Norma SP bullet. Hit the left shoulder and the bullet exit on the right shoulder. Distance around 60 meters. I can�t draw any conclusions after only one deer, but I�ve got nothing to complain during the first kill with this bullet.

By the way, this was my first kill limping on one leg using sticks

Pete

You lier!!!!358PCAK.
I know you have a friend that drowe you out there on his 4wd motorcycle.