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I've never found the need to anneal brass. With common calibers I'd just discard it. But with 375 HH&H brass I thought it would be time to learn. Can nickle plated brass be annealed? --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | ||
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Gojoe, Yes, nickle-plated brass can be annealed. The annealing proces will anneal the brass and the unlying brass. The nickle will oxidize a bit during the heating process, but this will not hurt the nickel. The only way to avoid is would be to heat inside a vacuum. This website is excellent and explains all the metalurgy concepts, if you are interested. http://www.keytometals.com/Article32.htm | |||
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So I'm gonna need a bigger shop vac? Thank you for the help. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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Way to Gojoe! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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You should never anneal nickel plated brass cases! Annealing brass softens it; annealing nickel HARDENS it.
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Excellent statement....That's why I traded 500 cases of once fired 308! | |||
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There are two types of nickel plating - 1 - electrolytic ,which plates pure nickel 2 - electroless nickel , which plates nickel with a small amount of phosphorous. pure nickel will soften when annealed but the nickel/phosphorous alloy can precipitation harden. I'm not sure which type of plating is used on cases. Anyone know the FACTS ?? | |||
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"1 - electrolytic ,which plates pure nickel" This is the process that ammunition manufacturers use. "2 - electroless nickel , which plates nickel with a small amount of phosphorous." This is not. Electroless Nickle has a satin appearance. This is not what you find on firearms ammunition. "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776 Lost once in the shuffle, member since 2000. | |||
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Since Varmint Al (Al Harral) is an engineer, I'll quote from his Reloading Page:
You really need to read THIS LINK he provides as well which describes nickel plating in detail. | |||
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I don't like the feel of nickel cases when resizing them. You can feel that they are harder on your resizing die. | |||
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Nickel cases do not respond well to any of the brass prep that I often use. Primer pocket uniforming, even trimming and chamfering etc. Of course any form of neck turning is out. If it starts flaking off the brass you have a recipe for a scratched die. I've never experienced benefits of nickel. I think if you are a guide or PH and you need to keep the ammo in a belt for months at a time and the elements could damage the brass cases more it will be justified. Nickel can feed a little slicker too I suppose, but brass seems fine to me. | |||
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I only have some nickel plated pistol bullets and the nickel is only on the outside of the case which indicates electrolytic nickel !! Electrolytic plating doesn't plate holes very well ! Electroless plating would plate the inside also ! So it's soft nickel which actually makes sense. The hardenable electroless plating has been used on guns .For example Browning HPs were available at one time. | |||
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Why I dont use nickel plating; one on the left was pulled out of regular brass, one on the right was nickel plated. "though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." ---Thomas Jefferson | |||
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