I want to shoot scirocco bullets form my 6.5. They do not yet make them and it may be a year or so before it happens. Would it be possible to draw down the 284 150 grain to 264?

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Robin
from Tucson, AZ

I'm afraid that won't work. 20 thou is too much. Even going progressively smaller using three or four ring dies, it will come out looking like a banana.

Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
303british.com

[This message has been edited by Steve Redgwell (edited 03-10-2002).]

Steve,
I was afraid that would be the case. I don't need any bananas. Would it be too much to try it with a .277 bullet?

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Robin
from Tucson, AZ

Robin; The people to ask are:
Corbin
PO Box 2659
White City, OR 97503

541-826-5211 ask@Corbins.com www.Swage.com

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If Elmer didn't say it, it probably ain't true.

I have heard this really doesn't "work" at all. No matter what I am told you loose bullet integrity.

I once asked about going .375 to .366 only 9/1000 and everybody said sure...just hope your really don't have to count on the bullet holding up.

That's way too much of a reduction. Those bullets cannot be that special?

I made a die to swage .321" bullets to .3185" for my 8X57JR and they shoot fine.

Keep in mind that the "sizing up" principle of bullet making means that at each subsequent operation of bullet forming that the diameter gets a tiny increase. This is to prevent the jacket from springing away from the lead. This was the biggest advance in metalic cartridges since smokeless powder and the last one for that matter.

Well Robin, here's the thing. The books say 5 to 6 thou. I've gone as far as 10, but with little success. Strange things start happening. The banana thing is one. More importantly however, the core and jacket loosen. Lead begins to extrude though the nose, the jacket/core bends and can move around.
You can easily get away with 5 thou in a hunting bullet. Anymore than that with a std jacket is pretty much impossible.

The biggest advance in bullet making was the multi part bullet. That and machines that could develop consistency in both the components and the finished product.
Most designs, monolithics, partitions, bonded and hybrids of these are a waste for your avg deer hunter. The ad departments strike again!!
The only saving grace to most of these companies is that eventually the technology will advance some more and today's premium bullet will be tomorrow's std.

Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
303british.com

Thanks ot all for the input. I contacted Corbin and got exactly the same answer of .005 to .006.

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Robin
from Tucson, AZ

The extremely thick jacket of a Scirocco, and the core bonding, would make diameter reduction a bit questionable, I would think, even if limited to 5-6 thousandths.

Bigiron

The jacket would be the problem with the Scirocco.
With the bonded bullets, a conventional jacket of around .030" is not much of a problem.
I wouldn't even bother trying using a hybrid or monolithic bullet.

Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
303british.com

I had a project rifle that required me sizing .429" bullets (different brands, styles, and weights) down to .412".

Accuracy was ca-ca in all cases.

Russ

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