Well, I started to load up some of my speer .250 grn hotcores for my .358 and tto sight in again. Don't have enought bullets to sight in and go hunting. So went to the local dealer and he didn't have any speer. All he had were . 250 Hornady inter-lock spirepoints. So I took them, then discovered the Hornady was longer than the speer and had to bee seated deeper than the speer.
Posts: 367 | Location: Farmington, Mo | Registered: 07 July 2002
dog gone computer wouldn't let me finish. is the hornady a good game bullet and accurate ? I will be shoot at black bear at 25-50 yds. Man I hate trying to do everything over again at the last minute !
Posts: 367 | Location: Farmington, Mo | Registered: 07 July 2002
I agree with Bill. I love the Hornady but the standard spirepoints are not as tough as the Partition. You could the Hornady but might not get the peneration you need. The Hornady is a good standard style bulet. Great for deer. I have had great success with accuracy. If you want to know how well it works shoot into wet paper. Need about 2 feet to make sure. Good Luck
Hcliff
Posts: 305 | Location: Green Bay, WI | Registered: 09 September 2002
Just my opinion, but at the velocities generated by a .358 Winchester, you or the bear will never tell the difference between a Speer or a Hornady.
The other guys are right, the pressure generated by the load may be different, but the difference in bullet performance will not be of any significance. Both, the Speer and the Hornady are good bullets.
Good Luck, R F
Posts: 1220 | Location: Hanford, CA, USA | Registered: 12 November 2000
Thanks guys> Mr. Flowers I agree with your assesment. At the speed you get from the .358 win (2350,coronographed not guessed) a premium bullet is not required. I've shot 31 bear with the Speer hotcore and have yet to recover but one bullet. I GUESS the real question is: I've sighted in with the Speers 250's will the Hornady .250 shoot anywhere near the orginial sight in considering the same weight and vel. I'm only shooting at 50 yds. I'm just running out of time to get this done, no time to get the speers or do a whole lot of changing. Maybe I should just load a box of hornady's and try them in both rifles if I can get the chance and see what happens. Thanks for all the imput.
Posts: 367 | Location: Farmington, Mo | Registered: 07 July 2002
You don't need premium bullets in your .358 to kill black bears. A good Hornady will do the job and do it well. People have gone premium bullet crazy in recent years, next thing you know you'll need a partition to kill a woodchuck! If you are shooting a magnum then maybe use them, but like I said at .358 speeds a conventional bullet will probably work better than a premium bullet. Hell in upstate NY where I was raised most guys use 30-30s to bear hunt and no they don't use partitions.
Posts: 414 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 28 February 2002
Unless you area after a bigger black bear than I have ever heard of, those 250 grain Hornadys will stop any black bear you are going to encounter.I agree with Pumpkinheaver, people are Premium Bullet crazy. The standard bullets from all the big manufacturers will do the job in 99 % of the times that game is harvested on this continent. I found the 250 Speers to be a little too heavily constructed in my Whelen, for deer anyway. The Hornady is probably your best bet at 358 velocities. Good luck to the bear that encounters you and that 358 with 250 grain Hornadys, he'll need it.
Posts: 59 | Location: Pennsylvania, USA | Registered: 04 March 2003
Not much is going to change at 50 yards and you could shoot about any bullet in a 358 at that range on bear, that was designed for that purpose..As Flowers said, that velocity of the 358 Win. is slow and not inclined to destroy bullet integrity...
BUT BEWARE: A lot of bullets out there in .358 caliber were designed for the 35 Remington and that will definatly get you into a switch. so based on that I would suggest you just shoot the Noslers and be safe....
Posts: 42230 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
I have never used a 250-grain Hornady, but I did shoot a pretty good sized whitetail with the 200 grain spirepoint once at about 25 yards. It made a very impressive hole on each side, hitting at about 2550 FPS. I decided that Hornady bullet was too tough for deer, and changed to the Speer 180-grain. I don't think those Hornadys are made for the .35 Remington! For one thing, it is pointed, and the .35 Rems mostly have tube magazines.