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Testing .264 hunting bullet
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This is the bullet I should test.
It's to left Swift A-Frame 120 gr, Partizan 140 gr, Woodleight 140 gr, Oryx 140 gr and Remington SP 120 gr.




I check the speed for evry bullet


And I write all technical data for every bullet.



I use dry phone book to shoot in, and it's a very hard load for a bullet to be shot like this.



Result after I found my bullet inside this phone books.


4 bullet up is Swift A-Frame 120 gr to left and 140 gr to right.
Down to left its 3 Woodleight bullet and to right its 4 Partizan.
Oryx and Remington bullet was too destroy to find any big part of the bullets.

Rifle I use is a customer made in caliber .264winmag

For all my shot I used Federal 215 magnum percussion cap. I used N160 powder and 56,5 grains for 140 grains bullet, and 59,5 grains for 120 grains bullet.
140 grains bullet gave a speed about 2900 fps and 120 grains bullet gave a spedd about 3200 fps.

From this small test its no doubt for me, Swift A-Frame is one of the world best bullet
 
Posts: 67 | Location: Norway | Registered: 13 July 2003Reply With Quote
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While I laud your eforts in testing the bullets, dry phone books are one of the worst test mediums you can ever use. They don't give you an ideal projection of what a bullet is or is not capable of. If you PM me, I will share with you the method I have used for years. It works and is a good reflection of what one can expect on game. It's a lengthy description, so instead of typing it up here, PM me and I'll be glad to share it with you.


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Posts: 9437 | Location: Shiner TX USA | Registered: 19 March 2002Reply With Quote
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If your fingers are willing I'd like to hear what test mediums you prefer and why.
I've been using deer lately and wouldn't mind recovering a bullet or two.



 
Posts: 233 | Location: Solebury, PA | Registered: 20 December 2002Reply With Quote
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Thanks for sharing, but BobbyT is right, dry paper is very hard on bullets. Soak the books thoroughly next time. I have found that really wet phone books or newsprint will expand a bullet very close to the ones I have recovered from game. Penetration is about 2/3 of what you get in a big game animal, but if you want to see what a bullet will do, especially compared to other bullets, it works great. Rule of thumb, if it blows up in wetpack it probably does on muscle, definetly bone w/ shallow penetration. If it expands well & penetrates deep, it will probably hold together for more difficult angled shots on game.


Bullet on left from wetpack IV app. 2650fps, center unfired .338/210grNP, bullet on right from Kudu bull taken @ 120yds, IV app. 2600fps. Looks pretty close to me. Penetration in wetpack app. 18" in the kudu app. 28".


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Posts: 7752 | Location: kalif.,usa | Registered: 08 March 2001Reply With Quote
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My testing setup is rather complicated to explain, but in short, it consists of a repeating assembly of 1" wet newsprint and 1-inch air pocket. On the very first facing, there's also a sheet of 1/8th" paneling material (rather soft), and every 5th facing is fronted & backed by a square of 100 percent cotton material (basically worn T-shirt). At the very back, an area where not-too-many bullets make it to, is a compression of shredded cotton garments, lightly dampened, to collect those stubborn, non-expanding bullets that punch right on through everything else.

I've tried everything from sawdust-silt mixtures to phonebooks to what-have-you, and this set-up, which I have used since 1985 or so, seems to give the closest parallel to performance on game -- although NOTHING is the same as flesh and blood. I've hunted a good while with handguns, and back then, precious little info was readily available. So I came up with my own means of testing to assess the performance of bullets in cartridges such as the TCUs, BRs, JDJs along with a host of lesser-known wildcats.


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Posts: 9437 | Location: Shiner TX USA | Registered: 19 March 2002Reply With Quote
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I used a box stacked with dry magazines and shot into them from 10 to 100 yards. I found it really cleared out the softer bullets in a hurry as most of them like the speer BT ( 4" of penitration and nothing bigger than bird shot ). I settled on the X-bullets, A frames and partitions for most of my hunting from this test and so far have never recovered a bullet from one single bear yet and only one was not shot dirrectly through the shoulder bone. That bear was shot straight on and the bullet ( AFrame) penitrated 3 1/2 feet before exiting. True that water in the paper will create a more fleshlike response to the bullet usually causing more expantion but in the case of the X or Partion, they will only expand so much so ( in my opinion) you gain little more knowledge than with dry paper. The AFrame however will expand more under hydrolic stress even more with high velovity, but its still better than using a Ballistic tip.

Not looking to tick anybody off by agreeing with him, but I like this form of test.... for this type bullet anyway.


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Posts: 741 | Location: NB Canada | Registered: 20 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I had only few bullet left to take new test, but today I trying to shoot through wet paper. The last paper book was not wet, but only a bit moist.

I shot two Woodleght bullet and two Partizan bullet, and they look better now after this test.

Partizan bullet



Woodlegiht




 
Posts: 67 | Location: Norway | Registered: 13 July 2003Reply With Quote
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I've used deer to test my 260 et al and Barnes X or TSX. I must be doing something wrong, recovered only one bullet -- that one passed the LENGTH of a big buck -- seems my bullets failed. On the bright side, there were 18 one-shot-kills of said test media.
 
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