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Muskrat and Arky, those are the most intelligent remarks I have ever read, RIGHT ON!!!
 
Posts: 4068 | Location: Bakerton, WV | Registered: 01 September 2003Reply With Quote
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Bullet casting is the key to really saving money. Lee makes decent quality stuff at reasonable prices, and I've had no complaints with any of their bullet molds. Depending on what supplies you have available to you, 5 gallon buckets of wheelweights, that yield ~100#'s of bullet alloy run from free to $20.

If you have shooting buddies interested in cast bullets in the same style you shoot, you can sell 100 bullets hear and there to pay for your powder and primers. You might find a tire shop that'll trade bullets for more ww's as well.

If you do any amount of casting at all, you'll find it's not how many years a bucket lasts, but rather how many buckets you'll use a year.
 
Posts: 7213 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Two wives have come and gone! Painful experiences, Yes! I learned something each time and kept accumulating firearms and reloading stuff. Should I feel the need to indulge myself one more time in the insanity of American marital bliss I'll sell the spent primers and worn out brass to a recyclier for an engagement ring. By the time I get enough to buy a ring I should have come to my senses.
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Posts: 6173 | Location: Richmond, Virginia | Registered: 17 September 2000Reply With Quote
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Like dave said , bullets can be had online for a good price . You can get good quality bullets at www.berrysmfg.com and the shipping is included in the price. You can also get reptile litter at the big pet stores in bulk for tumbling media. It is ground up walnut shells.
 
Posts: 129 | Location: colorado | Registered: 27 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I used reloading for others as a way to have access to and shoot many calibers and rifles that I didn't want to buy, just shoot. Gotta work up them loads, you know. So, it saved me from having to buy a lot of guns! You get to build ammo that performs in a most excellent fashion in your rifle, I'm not so sure about the saving money part of it, by the time you add up all the things that go into doing that. Buy a 308, 270, 30-06, and stock up at XXXMart during the inventory reduction sale, might be a better way to save money. But then you loose the fun and experience that comes from rolling your own, huh?
 
Posts: 1944 | Location: Moses Lake, WA | Registered: 06 November 2001Reply With Quote
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If you're serious about saving money while reloading, powder choice is one way to find savings. A 1 pound cannister of powder contains 7000 grains of powder. How many grains does it take for your cartridge? If you're lucky, you can find a powder that works well for you which requires less grains per load than other powders and reload more cartridges from the same cannister of powder.

Bullet choice is another opportunity to save money. Buy inexpensive bullets in bulk for fireforming, plinking, working up loads (you'll still have to back off your petload a little and work back up when you switch to your preferred hunting/target bullet).

Don't waster powder and bullets at the range for fireforming, breaking in a barrel, or anything else if that can be done while plinking or hunting. Good fireforming loads are available, and a barrel can be broken in while using it for its intended purpose.

Learn to anneal brass cases. Brass is the most expensive component of the load (excluding premium hunting bullets). If you don't abuse the brass by using hot loads that open up primer pockets, the brass can be annealed every 4th-5th firing to prolong its lifespan.

I normally buy brass cases in bulk from the same lot and segregate it by weight, and cull out any cases that aren't uniform in case wall or neck thickness. The culled cases aren't pitched, but I don't use them for working up a load. The uniform "good brass" will save you a lot of time at the bench trying to work up a good load by eliminating variables that can cause fliers, which means less wasted bullets, powder and primers trying to find an accurate load.

I use a Sharpie to write my load data on every case I handload. I remember when I just wrote the load on the box. The tape or label would come off, or for a number of other reasons, I wound up with unmarked loaded cartridges that I didn't know what they were loaded with. NOT GOOD! Buy a bullet puller so you can salvage bullets, powder and primers when a you make a mistake or wind up with loaded cartridges that you don't want to use. If you've marked each case with a Sharpie after you've loaded it, you can pour the powder back into the proper cannister. If not, you must necessarily pitch it.

I didn't start handloading to save money, but it is possible get into it very inexpensively, and reload on the cheap. It's just never been one of my goals. It seems I've bought one of everything and I'm still finding stuff I've got to have. I've got a couple dozen powders on hand and use them all. It's a sickness, I tell you. Welcome to the club.
 
Posts: 529 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 31 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Its a whole lot easier to shed wives then your favorite guns my friend!!!!!
I am on my second one too, but she doesn't complain about what I buy in the gun area and I don't complain when she buys,clothes,shoes,purses, or other such items.Everyone has to have something that they really enjoy in life.I have wondered if that boy is still even with that young lady? they were about 20 years old or so. Five months is a longtime at that age!!!!!
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Posts: 287 | Location: central ohio | Registered: 05 January 2003Reply With Quote
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I've been reloading ammo now since 1954, and I've never used a tumbler! This is one of those "nice-to-have, but non-essential" items.



If you really want to save money, cast your own plinking and target practice bullets, and only use store-bought projectiles when you are loading up ammo for hunting large critters. You can save a lot using scrap alloys that you can get free or for very little. Get one of Veral Smith's books (Lead Bullet Technologies), and learn how you can get jacketed bullet performance from cast bullets by heat-treating alloys! It'll give you a lot of fun, and challenges to get it right, and you can have bullets for little or no monetary investment! By using reduced loads, your cases can last virtually forever, and cases are the most costly component of a round of ammo!! Powder and primers are pretty cheap, per shot!!
 
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If you really want to save money, cast your own plinking and target practice bullets,








Spot on mate! I expect my $5.00 5 gallon bucket of wheel weights will last for several years.



If you just want to do a lot of shooting for a small price then millsurp ammo in something like a 223 or 8mm simply cannot be beat. Otherwise you can load remington core locts in a 308 for about 1/2 to 2/3 the cost of factory ammo all day long, especially in cheap long lasting millsurp brass, so dont let these guys discourage you. A case that holds twice as much powder will obviously increase your cost as will more expensive brass costs. I started out about 20 years ago to be able to get exactly what I want in ammunition as opposed to what the stores happen to have on the shelf and found that I can make the equivalent of premium ammo for about the same cost of run of the mill factory stuff.



The ice cream tumbler works like a champ. So does most Lee equipment but I opted for a better grade scale and dies.



In the end you will probably find that you will just shoot more as mentioned and so there is no real savings. But your still ahead as opposed to doing the same thing from a box once the initial equipment investment is done.



One last money saving tip, NEVER sell a set of dies in a caliber you like just because you sell a gun. I find those calibers have a way of eventually creeping back into my cabinet.
 
Posts: 10164 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001Reply With Quote
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Another way to save on powder. Buy in 8 pound kegs. Not only is it cheaper, you deal with the lot-to-lot difference in powder less often.
 
Posts: 529 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 31 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Clark,,, or anyone else that knows what he means. " remove the expander ball".

What do you replace your expander balls with? I use Redding dies.
Or do you just not use them?
 
Posts: 4821 | Location: Idaho/North Mex. | Registered: 12 June 2002Reply With Quote
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I just go without them.
Many persons [who know more than me] keep telling me to get my die's necks lapped out [to .002" less than my cartridge necks] if I am going to do that. But I am getting great results and have not done as I was told yet.

The Sinclair concentricity gauge comes with instructions that say "~you will probaly find the expander ball is the problem~".
The guage does not make the ammo any more accurate, it just shows were the process goes wrong. Save $75 and skip buying the gauge, and go directly to removing the expander ball.
 
Posts: 2249 | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Hmmm ...Ill have to try that? I hate that the expander ball streches the case and length.
What do you use to hold your depriming pin?
 
Posts: 4821 | Location: Idaho/North Mex. | Registered: 12 June 2002Reply With Quote
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I have an RCBS decapping die, but one could use the expander ball for a smaller caliber or punch them out with a pin and hammer.
 
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