Well I finedly found a free market 270 to buy at the right price. I have been holding on to a few hundred 270 brass and dies just in case.

A older 760 with a simmons 3x9 for 250. I have never owned a 270 before lot of other calibers.

I am thinking of 150 gr bullets. What are your thoughts on powder and loads.

For deer the 130 grainers work great.....but then almost anything works well.....

H-4831 is the right powder.....

Three of the six hunters on my elk hunt used .270 rifles.....one was a .270 WSM....one guy used a 130 grain bullet....the others used 140s for elk....

Personally I thought they was light in the bullet selection.....heck...it's what they always used.....who am I to advise differently...these guys love the .270.....and so do I....

270 loads! One of my favorite topics.

When I started, I was really a fan of "big for caliber" bullets, so I used a lot of 150s and still do. BUT, about 10 years ago I was having quite a bit of success with the 130 btip and used it for a long time. Really couldn't tell a difference with it or the 150 btip. Then, in 2003, the 130 Barnes TSX came along and I used it exclusively for several years. Then the 110 TSX and TTSX came along. Have used both quite successfully.

In one of my 270s I have settled on the 150 Berger VLD with IMR4350, and the other is shooting a 110 TTSX with H4350.

Just my opinion, but when venturing into the use of slower powders, you should consider using magnum primers. Especially with Re22 or H1000. My VLD load with IMR4350 is sparked by a Fed 215M primer.

I'm guessing a magnum primer is worth about a grain of powder difference.

You can EASILY find a load with a good rifle with any of these:

IMR4350, AA4350, H4350
IMR4831, H4831SC
H1000
Re19, Re22
IMR7828
AA3100
Magnum
Hunter
VVN560
VVN160, 165

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I'm guessing a magnum primer is worth about a grain of powder difference.

From my experiences....maybe not even that much!

With 150 grain bullets in the 270 I have had success using four different powders in different guns. H-4831, RL-22, IMR-4831, and Acurate 3100 have worked in different rifles. With 130 grain bullets I have never got past H-4831 as it has worked well in every rifle I have tried. I've never needed magnum primers and I have always found maximum loads to work best. For deer and antelope I use 130 grain bullets and for elk I use 150 grainers.

IMR 8208 XBR meters better than any powder I've used before. It also seems I can hardly miss with this load as several deer, a couple of crows and a couple of groundhogs have found out.

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H-4831 is the right powder.....

+1 H4831 is the right powder.
I would suggest the 150gr Nosler BT's. They will quickly kill a wide varity of game.

I'm gonna be the odd guy out here. My "go to" load for my .270 Win. is a 150 Partition and 57.0 grs. of Rldr-22. 1" or slightly less all the time. Been using that combo here in Ak. for years.
Bear in Fairbanks

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For deer the 130 grainers work great.....but then almost anything works well.....

H-4831 is the right powder.....

Haven't loaded for a 270 in about 30 years. At that time I had ordered 5 MKXs in 270 and then loaded for the buyers. All 5 were MOA or less with 130sp and the same charge of H4831.

I've loaded for about 4 or 5 270's that our family has owned over the years but they were all bolt action shooters. I always tried to get to a load of 62.0 g of H-4831 in a W-W case, CCI primer and a Nosler 130 grain BT. If the rifle would handle this load pressure wise, the accuracy was usually pretty good for hunting applications. Around 1.5" groups with velocity in the 3050-3100 fps range over the chronograph.

See what loads work the best for velocity and accuracy in your shooter. RL-22 is also a well thought of and recommended powder for this caliber.

While looking at my loads in 270 that I put together in 2005, I have 50 rounds with the 140 Accubond and H4831SC and 50 rounds I loaded 2 years ago with the 130 Nosler solid base and a maxed out charge of Re22.

Both of these also produced 1/2 MOA at 100 yards. I killed a big KY doe 2 years ago with the solid base at about 35 yards. When I shot her, she rolled backwards and froze square on her back with the rear legs opened ready for dressing!

Since I have 130SSTs, H4831sc & RE22, almost 5000 WLR primers on hand, Id try some combos with them, Ive loaded 150NBTs before but would load nothing more than 140s now, 150s are so long.

For the first bullet that I try in any big game gun that I have ever gotten,I uses Hor SP Interlock. If you are going to uses it for deer at 200yrds and under, the 130's or 150's will work great. With the 130's I would keep them at or below 2900fps at the muzzel. Ps: they are also one of the cheapest bullets out there.

My load is:
140gr TSX
Rem. brass
54.5gr H4831SC
WLR Primer
3.37 COL (depending on your chamber, it may need to be shorter)

Depending on how I'm feeling/shooting, that load will print ragged one hole groups. It's a fairly light load. I've tested higher charges up to 57.5gr, but the 54.5 gives me the tightest group, so I sacrifice a little bit of speed for the accuracy. However, I'm sure that at longer ranges that accuracy goes south due to the lack of velocity. I've never shot a deer at more than about 150 yds though, so it doesn't matter.

A while back I bought a bulk pack of 130gr core-lokts at a good price for target practice but haven't loaded any yet. Anybody got a good load for those?

My most accurate load is:
130gr nbt
remington brass
57gr H4831sc
CCI 200 primer
seated .010 off lands
2800+- vel.
Remington 700 with 22 in. barrel

I keep seeing (not just here) how popular the NBT is in the .270, but don't understand why. I've killed 4 deer with them and will never use them again. All 4 ran at least 50 yds, one went about 200. Upon inspection after tracking, all were fairly well placed shots in the vitals, the entry wound would be about the size of a woman's/girl's fist with little or no exit wound.

With the 6 I've taken with Barnes TSX, the entry wound is just a small hole about the size of the bullet. The organs and the exit wound are another story. I could fit my fist in most of the exit wounds, and on one occasion there was NO heart left, and one lung was completely shredded. Also, all 6 dropped where they stood.

I won't use anything but TSX for hunting anymore.

Disclaimer: This is only an account of my experiences. I know there are plenty of great bullets out there, but I hate the Ballistic Tip.

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Originally posted by Steel Slinger:
I keep seeing (not just here) how popular the NBT is in the .270, but don't understand why. I've killed 4 deer with them and will never use them again. All 4 ran at least 50 yds, one went about 200. Upon inspection after tracking, all were fairly well placed shots in the vitals, the entry wound would be about the size of a woman's/girl's fist with little or no exit wound.

I know there are plenty of great bullets out there, but I hate the Ballistic Tip.

Ditto that! I never could see the attraction for the NBT. I've had the same performance issues on deer...which are supposedly easy to kill quickly. They are, if you use the right bullet. NPT or TSX for me.

Also I live in an area with wild hogs. I'd never take NBTs hog hunting.

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Originally posted by Slatts:

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Originally posted by Steel Slinger:
I keep seeing (not just here) how popular the NBT is in the .270, but don't understand why. I've killed 4 deer with them and will never use them again. All 4 ran at least 50 yds, one went about 200. Upon inspection after tracking, all were fairly well placed shots in the vitals, the entry wound would be about the size of a woman's/girl's fist with little or no exit wound.

I know there are plenty of great bullets out there, but I hate the Ballistic Tip.

Ditto that! I never could see the attraction for the NBT. I've had the same performance issues on deer...which are supposedly easy to kill quickly. They are, if you use the right bullet. NPT or TSX for me.

Also I live in an area with wild hogs. I'd never take NBTs hog hunting.

The attraction is the accuracy of that NBT which many lads are finding out through their experience. The Barnes bullets that are solid copper I found penciled through mule deer and elk and were not immediately effective like the NBT.

Our family has taken many mule deer and elk with the NBT in .223, .270, and .300 Win Mag calibers with the NBT's and never had a recover job of more than 25-50 yards.

Accuracy moves most to this bullet.

What is there not to like?
They shoot excellent and leave big holes in soft tissue, with no pencil throughs. On one antelope I shot with a 150gr .284 Nosler NBT it damanged every organ north of, and including, the diaphram. Heart, lungs, splean, kidneys, liver, all with one shot. Not much of an exit hole, and it managed to run about 25 yards before she dropped, but she was effectivly dead long before that. Of course, at launch speeds above 3100 fps it might be time to switch to the accubond, but with a 150gr bullet in a .270 win, I don't think Pdog shooter will have to worry about that.

My W70, 270WSM likes different powder for each bullet:

130 HNDY SST - H4831SC
140 HNDY BTSO - IMR4350
150 HNDY SST - RL19

I'll tell you why the NBT is so popular. Because my experiences are in sharp contrast to yours. The btip has accounted for more of my game animals than any other. I've never had anything but dead animals either right where they were hit or very close. And it is one of the most accurate hunting bullets in history.

Can't explain why it, along with the TSX, perform differently for different hunters.

I've posted it repeatedly, and I'll do it again: if the btip is pushed at mild to moderate speed, it will likely please every hunter that uses it. For example my 150s in my 270 were going 2700fps.

My .270 Win load is 59 grns of H4831SC with a 130 grn Accubond

I am a big fan of the Nosler Ballistic tips and use the 150 exclusively on deer. My experience is that the 130 BT is great as long as you don't catch the shoulder first. If I were going to go with a 130 today, I would choose the Accubond. The stouter construction offsets the lower sectional density providing better bone crushing penetration for it's mass.

150 gr. NBT
56.6 gr. H4831SC
Rem 9.5 mag primer
2975 fps out of a 24" barrel.

Like I said, it was just my experience with them(the NBT). They exploded immediately when hitting the hide and did little damage to the organs. Makes me worry that if I made a bad shot, it would just be a badly wounded animal that I'd never find. I prefer the clean, instant kill of the TSX.

P.S. Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread.

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They exploded immediately when hitting the hide and did little damage to the organs.

That was a good description of them 25 years ago. The BT has been redesigned 4 times since then. The modern BT's are a serious game killing bullet.

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Originally posted by Steel Slinger:
Like I said, it was just my experience with them(the NBT). They exploded immediately when hitting the hide and did little damage to the organs. Makes me worry that if I made a bad shot, it would just be a badly wounded animal that I'd never find. I prefer the clean, instant kill of the TSX.

P.S. Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread.

Sectional density is important with the NBT's meaning the larger bullets will perform better than the lighter ones. Your experience is not unlike my own with 130 grainers. Once I switched to the 150's there was no comparison. They are extremely lethal more so than the TSX.

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Originally posted by Steel Slinger:
I keep seeing (not just here) how popular the NBT is in the .270, but don't understand why. I've killed 4 deer with them and will never use them again. All 4 ran at least 50 yds, one went about 200. Upon inspection after tracking, all were fairly well placed shots in the vitals, the entry wound would be about the size of a woman's/girl's fist with little or no exit wound.

With the 6 I've taken with Barnes TSX, the entry wound is just a small hole about the size of the bullet. The organs and the exit wound are another story. I could fit my fist in most of the exit wounds, and on one occasion there was NO heart left, and one lung was completely shredded. Also, all 6 dropped where they stood.

I won't use anything but TSX for hunting anymore.

Disclaimer: This is only an account of my experiences. I know there are plenty of great bullets out there, but I hate the Ballistic Tip.

Ya should use 150 Partitions instead.
Bear in Fairbanks

I use IMR-4964 with 130gr bullets.
I was given some 170gr Federal cart. a while ago oh shoot up and have loaded some 140gr bullets before.
That said I have not found any critter that I need to use a heavier bullet than a 130gr.

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Originally posted by TEANCUM:
I've loaded for about 4 or 5 270's that our family has owned over the years but they were all bolt action shooters. I always tried to get to a load of 62.0 g of H-4831 in a W-W case, CCI primer and a Nosler 130 grain BT. If the rifle would handle this load pressure wise, the accuracy was usually pretty good for hunting applications. Around 1.5" groups with velocity in the 3050-3100 fps range over the chronograph.

See what loads work the best for velocity and accuracy in your shooter. RL-22 is also a well thought of and recommended powder for this caliber.

I just got a picture on my phone of one of our sons shooting a 5X6 bull elk in Montana. He was using one of those .270's referenced above and shot the bull at 323 lazered yards with that load. One shot in the boiler room and then he watched the herd (around 60 critters) run off and this younger bull try to keep up. After struggling for about 75 yards uphill in the snow, our son was ready to shoot him again when the bull got lightheaded and tipped over dead. He did mention that when he dressed the bull out he found that the bullet had separated from the copper jacket and lead core but was very impressed with the amount of damage done in thorax area. He found the bullet embedded in the offside hide after entering behind the front shoulder in a somewhat downward trajectory and traversing through the thorax cavity the lengthwise way. He is a 4th year medical student and has watched many gun shot surgeries so he is somewhat familiar with bullet performance from a viewpoint of experience in the field and also in the OR.

My load is 60.5gr H4831sc, in a DWM case, under a 130gr Barnes TSX. This load clocks at 3,150fps and shoots MOA out of my old H&R 300 Ultra Rifle.

Since I switched to Barnes in 1992, I've not had to shoot an elk more than once, and the longest distance an elk has traveled has been about 10 steps. I've only recovered one Barnes.

57 grs. of H-4831 with a 150 gr. speer bullet.

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Ya should use 150 Partitions instead.
Bear in Fairbanks

Is there any game in NA that you wouldn't hunt with that?

I've never hunted griz, but my impression is that a .270 with 150gr Partitions would handle the job. Right? Wrong? ????

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Originally posted by Bear in Fairbanks:

Ya should use 150 Partitions instead.
Bear in Fairbanks

Is there any game in NA that you wouldn't hunt with that?

I've never hunted griz, but my impression is that a .270 with 150gr Partitions would handle the job. Right? Wrong? ????

I'd use that combo for anything in North America except for Brown Bear. A number of years ago (the early '60's ?) a friend of mine shot a couple (2 I think) grizzlies up in the Brooks while helping out with his father's guide operation. He also took several moose.
I admit, I'd want a backup just in case but...
My main thing is that I trust that rifle and what it can do accuracy wise.
Bear in Fairbanks

I loaded my .270win with 150gr Hornady Interbond at a speed of 2938fps and use it for Bushveld hunting. I also hunt in flat open area and there I like to use the 110gr Sierra Pro Hunter. When the 110gr is driven at +-3300 to 3350 it would shoot in the same block on the target. .270win is an excellent choice! Versatile!!!

Is the 760 a pump or auto? I would stick with factory levels.
Hotter loads will be harder on the gun.
I might also use what they call small base sizing dies. These dies ensure that the case is sized to the minimum size.
The pump and auto's don't have the strong camming action of a bolt gun. A cartridge that is even a bit tight fitting may not let the action close. To hot a load and the cartridge case may not extract.
In the 270's I've loaded for most every bullet and powder combo shot ok. None over 2 inches at 100 yards. Most 1 inch or less. Loading up to max loads seldom gave the best results. 130 gr bullets loaded to 2900-3000 fps shot very well and will put a deer down out to 450 yards with one shot kills if you hold up your end of the job.
With 110 gr bullets at 3200 will do the job on varmints at simular distances.

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Is the 760 a pump or auto?

pump

My best load is 140 grain Nosler Accubond pushed by 52.5 grains of IMR4350. It is a tremendous deer load!

I have 2 270's and I use IMR4350 for both...ironically 54.5 grains over a Fed210 using winchester brass and Sierra Gameking 130 BT's performed the best as I was developing loads. I just shot the win model 70 classic stainless/syn yesterday and put 8 consecutives rounds in .81" at 100yds - it produced an average 2800fps out of a 22" barrel. What a lucky break both rifles like the same load!!

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I am thinking of 150 gr bullets. What are your thoughts on powder

IMR 4350.