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Bullet Selection
22 February 2014, 19:29
AeneasBullet Selection
When using a reloading manual's recipes for reloading, is it necessary to use the exact bullet that they used to develop their cartridges? For instance, the Lyman manual uses a Speer 165gr TMJ in one of the cartridges that they tested. Do I have to use Speer, or can I use any 165gr TMJ?
22 February 2014, 20:17
dpcdI use them all interchangeably. Barnes or other solid coppers? use their data.
22 February 2014, 21:11
wasbeemanI use the load books as a guideline not an absolute. Don't forget, however, that a prudent reloader always starts below max and works up.
Aim for the exit hole
22 February 2014, 21:46
Luckyducker+1 on dpcd and wasbeeman!
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22 February 2014, 21:57
enfieldsparesI'd be careful and would NOT use data for standard cup and core jacketed lead bullets (either style, soft point or FMJ) with solid copper bullets machined from bar stock.
Nor would I interchange loading information grian for grain between molycoated bullets and standard cup and core bullets.
Safe loading practice is with ANY chnage of component from that in the handbook's "recipe" to reduce by at least 5% or even 10% from the listed load.
22 February 2014, 22:41
BlacktailerAs others have said, always, always, always back off a bit when changing any component.
Probably the only way you could get into trouble when changing similar type and weight bullets is IF you had a close to max load AND were seating to touch the lands AND if the ogive was different enough to jam the new bullet into the lands then you may get into an over pressure situation.
Not the only way it could go sideways on you but you can see how it is possible so always back off a bit and work back up. No one likes blowing up guns and picking action parts out of their teeth.

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22 February 2014, 23:52
Bear in Fairbanksquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I use them all interchangeably. Barnes or other solid coppers? use their data.
I do what he said.
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24 February 2014, 09:10
AeneasOK, sounds good. Thank you all for the info.
B.I.F. - No joke about seeing a worse president than Jimmy Carter. Hope we can correct that in the next election...
24 February 2014, 21:51
Reloader270Take in consideration that the bearing surface of bullets vary and therefore the more bearing surface you have, you need to download a few tenths of a grain. This is why you always start low with all loads and work them up checking for pressure signs.
25 February 2014, 00:36
Texas KillartistWhen a new rifle/ cartridge arrive (or before), I study multiple sources for my loads. Then I work up my loads (starting 3-5g below average max in .5g increments) w/ cheaper bullets(Speer, Sierra, Hornadys or grafs). Once I find THE load the rifle likes, I usually switch to the NP or NAB starting 2-3 grains below my best load w/ the cheaper bullets AND changing the seating depth for the new bullet as needed. Load the cheaper ones for practice,varmints,fun shooting and use the more expensive ones for hunting. It has worked well in most cases, but some rifles just do not like some bullets.
My little 7x57 loves sierras, NABs and even factory CLs, but it will not shoot the TBBC up to my satisfaction .
25 February 2014, 01:06
wasbeemanDuring the off season, I do considerable practice using cheap, similar weight bullets. for actual hunting, I go with the good stuff, check my zero, and go.
Aim for the exit hole