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In the past, I've had good experiences with RCBS customer service. However, my last experience with them was a disappointment. The carbide bit on my primer pocket uniformer cracked. I was met with skepticism when I called and was told that brass couldn't crack hardened carbide. Their customer service didn't want to accept the fact that sometimes the best products sometimes have quality defects.

RCBS wouldn't send out a replacement until they inspected my broken bit. RCBS also wanted me to cover postage cost. I expect that response from other companies, but not RCBS. In the end, I got a replacement part. Instead of the A+ service I normally expect from RCBS, I'd rate my most recent experience as a C.
 
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After 50 years of reloading I have seen a drop off of customer service from most of the companies. Some are far worse than others.
Lyman stinks on ice. Expect no service to correct any problems with their die sets.
LEE is starting to go down that road as well. You used to be able to send back broken parts or devices and they would replace it,no questions asked. Now it is "do you have the receipt?" How OLD is the thing?. Anything after a year is trash nowadays.
It will only get worse as folks who care retire and the followers in their foot steps could care less.


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well, i'd have to agree with rcbs. how the hell did you break it???
 
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I was cleaning out the pockets of some brass. There was nothing unusual about the brass. The bit just cracked and fell off. It was only a couple years old and hadn't seen any hard use. It probably was just some sort of a defect within the bit or maybe with the hardening process. Even the best made products have some lemons. Their attitude was that I must have done something wrong or was trying to scam them because their product was infallible. I'm not a metallurgist, but somehow it was brittle or weak. I often bought RCBS because I expected a different response. I'll probably still buy RCBS products, but I just won't put as much of a premium on their customer service reputation.
 
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Metal can have voids or impurities in it.When it does it can fail.
 
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Carbide is so hard and brittle it is easy to crack it by dropping the tool or dropping another tool on the cutting edge. I have broken thousands of carbide lathe inserts and end mills. They do break easily so treat them gently.


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I was cleaning out the pockets of some brass. There was nothing unusual about the brass. The bit just cracked and fell off. It was only a couple years old and hadn't seen any hard use. It probably was just some sort of a defect within the bit or maybe with the hardening process. Even the best made products have some lemons. Their attitude was that I must have done something wrong or was trying to scam them because their product was infallible. I'm not a metallurgist, but somehow it was brittle or weak. I often bought RCBS because I expected a different response. I'll probably still buy RCBS products, but I just won't put as much of a premium on their customer service reputation.
 
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Carbide is so hard and brittle it is easy to crack it by dropping the tool or dropping another tool on the cutting edge. I have broken thousands of carbide lathe inserts and end mills. They do break easily so treat them gently.



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Carbide is so much harder than brass I don't think such a thing can happen unless someone droped it and cracked it and then you happen to use it and it fell in half...Got any kids around or inquisative friends, they can usually break an anvil with a powder puff, then again so can some reloaders! Eeker


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Carbide is so much harder than brass I don't think such a thing can happen unless someone droped it and cracked it and then you happen to use it and it fell in half...Got any kids around or inquisative friends, they can usually break an anvil with a powder puff, then again so can some reloaders! Eeker


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Sorry to hear about your problems with RCBS. My contacts with them on replacement warranty items has been 100% with some of those items being over 30 years old.

I had them replace the canister on a powder measure just a couple of months ago and that powder measure was at least 35 years old.
 
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OK, for you guys who think it cannot happen.

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Once on an apple, and once on a Mars bar!

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Most of you know that RCBS has been bought out numerous times over the past 30 years and with each transition in management, etc. there seems to be a decrease in customer service and most important the quality of their machined product line is not what it use to be. I've been a huge fan of RCBS for 40+ years when it was still under Huntington's ownership. Now, I have switched to Redding dies,etc if I have to buy new or I look for older RCBS stuff.


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You really need to look at your Redding stuff a little closer. Remove the preservative grease and see how rough the threads are.

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Most of you know that RCBS has been bought out numerous times over the past 30 years and with each transition in management, etc. there seems to be a decrease in customer service and most important the quality of their machined product line is not what it use to be. I've been a huge fan of RCBS for 40+ years when it was still under Huntington's ownership. Now, I have switched to Redding dies,etc if I have to buy new or I look for older RCBS stuff.
 
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