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went into a gander mountain store this week - 40 gr vmax 224 bullets $30/100. OK io know stuff is tight, but this is plain and simple gouging. My local gunshop has primers at 22-24, those vmax at 16.29. etc. sorry gander mnt. you are off limits | ||
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The local GM store has those kind of prices pretty much across the board on ammo and reloading supplies. Aftermarket shotshell wads that are $9-$10 at other stores are $13 at GM. The local store used to offer a price match guarantee. That stopped when a bunch of folks started beating the prices back with the guarantee and prices from some other locally owned gun and hobbie shops. They also used to give a 5% discount on ammo by the case. That didn't last more than about a year after the store opened. Their prices were ridiculous before the ammo and reloading supply shortage and now they are just obscene.  ******************************************************* For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction. | |||
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can't help ya with 40 grain bullets but have a lot of 50 grain V-max moly and will trade for .30-06 brass if interested! I may have 1-2,000 of them! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Regarding GM and their prices, few of us locally went together and ordered several 8lb jugs of powder, I bought some 3031 and paid 140.00 delivered. Same jug at GM today is marked at 199.95 plus tax! I thought 140.00 was high, but from what I have been seeing, if it is available, probably a decent price. I only visit GM to look and that's it. | |||
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I was at a local shooting range that has reloading supplys, they had 215GM for $5 a hundred they can stick it same happened in 1993 W/clinton primer shortage a local gun shop was gouging he did a decident reloading Bus. I think it's what kept his shop alive, he piss off so many customers that after the clinton primer  I went back for his 50% off going out of Bus. sale. | |||
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Some shops limited sales to 1,000 max purchases or less and some even sold only to those that could product a current NRA card! There are other ways to control hoarding.... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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the only time I can buy there is when they have something on closeout or have no clue what they have and price it too low. | |||
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I'm actually beginning to wonder if it's " Hoarding " or is perhaps something far more sinister now ?. Reasonable hand loaders are like Butchloc and so many others of us , we know when we're being held up !. A thought , just what would happen if an origination was bankrolling Anti firearms persons to " Buy up " available supplies ?. Before you put me in the asylum or ban me from the forum !. Stop to consider just 2 years ago who would have bet on the Economy tanking and a Black President running the show !. Sane re loaders shouldn't pay the prices , as it's just a little early for this much inflation !!!. Stop purchasing for a few months spread the word , see if things don't calm down . Look what it did for Auto prices !!!.  | |||
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Yes, I'm pretty sure it's hoarding. I was in a sporting goods store a couple of days after Obama won the election and it was PACKED. There was a worried looking guy going around buying stuff and I heard him saying something to his significant about there being a 500% tax planned on shooting supplies. It's panic buying plain and simple. It's also pretty funny seeing individuals selling 35 pieces of various types of range brass for ridiculous prices and people buy it. I think the panic will end eventually and then the powder/case/primer manufacturers will have a LOT less to do because everyone will have a lifetime supply. | |||
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I went into a local small shop last week.. usually there is two customers in there max... usually you are in there alone... at 4PM on Thursday there had to be 15 people in there... buying handguns, pistols, ammo...etc... there is a gun show in town this weekend.. I never go anymore as they price gouge before all of this shortage stuff happened courtesy of Obummer... but I was told it was packed with people looking to buy powder and primers... a friend told me his son went in a spent $1700.00 on ammo today...$1700.00 in my small town is like $5000.00 in most bigger towns... any powder was evidently sold at high profit within the first hour... there was a record turn out.. wonder how crowded it will be tomorrow... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Diring the "Clinton primer shortage" I wanted to go prairie dog shooting in the worst way and couldn't find a primer to save my ass and I needed a couple thousand. I finally found a former reloader in Wanamingo Minnesota that hadn't reloaded in years and bought his stock of three thousand primers and off I went P dog shooting..... After the shortage receeded I laid in a stock of 5,000 each of small and large rifle primers "just in case" of a future incident. I got them from Midsouth and the packages have never been opened. I also laid up a stock of roughly 5,000 .224 diameter bullets that still await their time. However I did this after the shortage was over. I suggest that when this thing breaks (and it will), you consider doing the same. You just might be able to help someone out or avert this BS again in the future. BTW.....n three different occasions I have posted that I could help reloaders with primers and sold 2,000 primers to one person.....the only person to PM me about it! I conclude that there's no real shortage.....only a shortage of "cheap" components. I can go to the local store and buy about anything I want and that don't come close to the situation we had with the "Clinton shortage" caused by a scare that they was going to require primers with a 3-year shelf life... which, as far as I know, was a pure bullshit rumor! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Vapo The two things that I have not been able to find are SR primers and .224 bullets. Powder comes in every couple of weeks and primers for LR and MLR plus all sorts of handgun primers arrive as well. Now, the price of powder jumped $2 from last weekend to this weekend in every store in town. I know because I went to all of them. Also, I have noticed that the most popular powders, IMR 4064, just as one example, are priced higher at most of the gunshops than less popular powders. Landrum | |||
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If you need a few let me know.....I have a lot of speer 52 grain hps I can part with and a few others as well. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I appreciate your offer but I am fine right now. One thing this whole craze has done for me is to get me back into loading for medium and large rifles again. I see some serious range time in my near future with the old 9.3 and 375 H&H. Landrum | |||
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A friend of mine who owns a gun shop says all the primers are being used to load ammo...and that the manufacturers are running three shifts. Apparently components are less lucrative to sell than is loaded ammo. Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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What is the opposite of "gouging"? "dumping"? "giving away"? "selling for a song"? "loss leader"? What is a synonym for "gouging"? "over priced"? "priced out of the market"? I am no longer going to gun shows, until there is enough room for one foot of personal space around me. | |||
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Vapo, tried to PM you on those Speer bullets, but it wouldn't go thru... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Let me look for them....I'll PM you when I find them..... They do "dogs" real good.....but I like the TNTs better. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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When beef or corn is in high demand and the rancher/farmr sells their product at auction and gets a higher pricedthan they expected it that gouging? no it's called supply and demand Do I like paying higher prices, no I don't but I don't begrudged the retailer. They are going to have to replace that inventory and at a higher price. When the economy slows down and durable goods like washers and dryers stop selling, the retailer drops their price becuase demand is low...and they need to move inventory and generate cash flow... How many of you walk into the store and say... "Gee, I know you put this stuff on sale because demand is low...but you know what...charge me the regular price." Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Yup.....we'll all change our minds when we first walk into a grocery store and find the shelves empty!.....then's when the politicians will be hunted down! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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When I was little boy in the 1950s, my father pointed out to me that the meat market was supply and demand at it's best. The different cuts of meat have different prices, but they all disappear at the same rate. 50 years later, supply and demand still works. | |||
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I bought a pound of powder once at GM-ONCE! "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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It's only gouging if you are forced to buy from them & you are not. Jut don't support then now or later. Maybe they'll get the hint. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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Why don't you chaps just head over here to the UK to see what gouging really is, take a look here for example: http://www.bushwear.co.uk/nost...D=990514&ClassID=196 Locally, if I can get any, I pay more and in fact the link above looks like pretty good value to me. At current exchange rates we are, assuming we could get some, paying $455 for 8lb of powder. It can take literally a year to get a 1lb jug of a specific powder, if you can get it at all. I have some, maybe 20 rounds of 308 worth, H414 and am frightened to use it as I might not be able to get any more and to be honest I'd love to pay $455 for some powder if I could. As for bullets: you take what you can get and be glad of it. I managed to get 100 Hornady SP in 308 recently and the dealer handed them over like he was giving me the Holy Grail. I am sure that, eventually, you folks will end up in the same situation as us so in the mean time stop complaining and enjoy the luxury of being able to buy any reloading or gun related supply over the counter with relaitvely little trouble. In 10 years time you will all be like me and be willing to give your left arm to buy 8lb of powder for $455. | |||
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