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Does any body load the 370Sako/9.3x66 with Reloader 19 or 17. I just tried my first reloads using V-V N160 and Nosler 250 AB. I only got 2000 FPS. This was a load recommended by my gunsmith. Lapua shows Vv N540 and N550 getting 2400-2500,which I can't find. Reloader 17 and 19 are close.any help would be welcome Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | ||
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Don't have any load info for the 370 and RL. I would think the RL19 would be way to slow. QL says you run out of case long before you hit pressure. I load for my 380PDK it is real close the the 370 simply .375. With a 260AB my go to powders are RL15 and Imr4895. artridge : .370 Sako Mag Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756 Useable Case Capaci: 64.279 grain H2O = 4.174 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 85 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hodgdon CFE223 96.8 63.9 4.14 2692 99.7 60000 7663 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Big Game 102.5 64.7 4.19 2688 99.4 60000 7656 1.149 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4895 101.9 60.4 3.91 2681 99.5 60000 7661 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon BL-C2 97.3 62.9 4.08 2673 99.9 60000 7512 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 64.2 4.16 2673 99.3 58269 7710 1.163 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 103.3 61.2 3.96 2670 99.5 60000 7568 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Bofors RP3 105.0 62.9 4.08 2668 99.8 59768 7497 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 203 old 105.0 62.9 4.08 2668 99.8 59768 7497 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Raufoss RA11 102.7 60.9 3.94 2668 99.2 60000 7597 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 102.7 60.9 3.94 2668 99.2 60000 7597 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-15 102.7 60.9 3.94 2668 99.2 60000 7597 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Winchester 748 94.7 60.4 3.91 2667 100.0 60000 7217 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Elcho 17 105.0 65.3 4.23 2666 99.2 53453 8123 1.190 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 105.0 65.3 4.23 2666 99.2 53453 8123 1.190 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 60 105.0 65.3 4.23 2659 99.6 52073 8201 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 102.8 56.9 3.69 2657 100.0 60000 6815 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H4895 98.9 58.6 3.80 2653 99.7 60000 7380 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H380 103.9 62.9 4.08 2653 98.2 60000 7619 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot Wild Boar 97.3 61.6 3.99 2653 99.4 60000 7435 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4320 104.5 60.9 3.95 2649 99.4 60000 7310 1.152 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ADI AR 2206H 99.2 58.8 3.81 2648 99.5 60000 7400 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2520 97.5 60.9 3.95 2646 100.0 60000 7007 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Lovex D073.6 99.8 60.9 3.95 2646 100.0 60000 7007 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ReloadSwiss RS 52 102.7 62.9 4.07 2644 98.4 60000 7508 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 4064 105.0 60.9 3.94 2644 100.0 59381 7005 1.197 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 99.9 61.1 3.96 2642 99.4 60000 7351 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! PB Clermont PCL 516 100.0 63.1 4.09 2642 98.2 60000 7511 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ReloadSwiss RS 50 102.1 62.9 4.08 2640 98.3 60000 7449 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H414 105.0 65.8 4.26 2639 95.2 55306 7969 1.187 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 105.0 65.8 4.26 2639 95.2 55306 7969 1.187 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 96.2 59.5 3.86 2636 99.9 60000 7165 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 103.3 63.2 4.10 2635 98.3 60000 7408 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Somchem S321 94.4 60.2 3.90 2635 100.0 60000 7193 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2495 99.2 57.5 3.73 2630 100.0 60000 6715 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Lovex S062 103.7 59.8 3.87 2629 99.9 60000 7105 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Somchem S341 98.1 62.6 4.05 2627 99.4 60000 7151 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N540 102.1 61.2 3.96 2625 100.0 60000 6971 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N530 95.2 56.7 3.68 2624 99.9 60000 7057 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon VARGET 104.9 60.1 3.90 2623 99.0 60000 7274 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ADI AR 2208 104.5 60.1 3.90 2623 99.0 60000 7274 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H335 90.0 58.2 3.77 2621 100.0 60000 6829 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 7 97.9 62.2 4.03 2621 98.1 60000 7314 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 202 99.8 58.2 3.77 2620 100.0 60000 6815 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! SNPE Vectan SP 10 89.6 56.7 3.67 2617 100.0 60000 6785 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 105.0 62.7 4.07 2617 96.2 60000 7367 1.154 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Ramshot TAC 96.7 61.8 4.00 2616 97.6 60000 7372 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Norma 201 100.3 58.1 3.77 2616 99.9 60000 7056 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 89.5 56.8 3.68 2616 100.0 60000 6776 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 8208 XBR 97.4 57.7 3.74 2616 99.9 60000 6982 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant AR-Comp 97.7 56.0 3.63 2611 100.0 60000 6291 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 97.2 56.0 3.63 2611 100.0 60000 6292 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ADI AR 2219 89.6 54.8 3.55 2609 100.0 60000 6587 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Hodgdon H322 95.3 54.8 3.55 2609 100.0 60000 6587 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Rottweil R902 102.2 58.4 3.78 2607 99.9 60000 6962 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Lovex D073.5 93.2 59.3 3.84 2607 100.0 60000 6819 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2460 92.9 59.3 3.84 2607 100.0 60000 6819 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 63.1 4.09 2605 95.2 59948 7420 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Rottweil R903 105.0 61.5 3.99 2603 99.4 55300 7335 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 105.0 60.9 3.94 2603 99.4 56124 7326 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 105.0 58.8 3.81 2601 99.1 58776 7102 1.178 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 94.3 59.7 3.87 2599 99.3 60000 7030 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Accurate 2230 92.5 59.3 3.84 2598 99.7 60000 6874 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! ReloadSwiss RS 40 94.5 57.1 3.70 2598 99.8 60000 6934 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Nitrochemie A/S 0300 86.8 52.8 3.42 2597 100.0 60000 6340 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Vihtavuori N140 102.0 59.2 3.84 2595 100.0 60000 6542 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Rottweil R901 98.2 55.3 3.58 2594 100.0 60000 6670 1.195 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Lovex D073.4 91.5 58.1 3.77 2594 100.0 60000 6705 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 98.4 57.9 3.75 2587 99.6 60000 6842 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Alliant Reloder-12 95.0 57.4 3.72 2581 100.0 60000 6437 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Thanks Ramrod I'll try Reloader 17 starting at 60 gr and working up Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | |||
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Went out today had loaded in 1 grain increments from 60 grains to 64 grains of Reloader 17. 64 grains gave me 2440 Fps average. Might have o try IMR 4350 or Reloader 15. Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | |||
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Bet you a it is even slower than the RL 17. Just from my 380PDK experience you need to speed up the powder. RL 15 would be good or a 4895 Cartridge : .370 Sako Mag Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756 Useable Case Capaci: 64.279 grain H2O = 4.174 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Powder : Alliant Reloder-15 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 84 49.60 2199 2685 33213 6302 92.8 1.514 -18.0 86 50.84 2251 2814 35447 6479 93.8 1.473 -16.0 88 52.08 2304 2946 37830 6648 94.7 1.431 -14.0 90 53.32 2356 3080 40372 6810 95.6 1.389 -12.0 92 54.56 2408 3218 43086 6964 96.4 1.348 -10.0 94 55.80 2459 3357 45982 7109 97.1 1.309 -08.0 96 57.04 2511 3499 49075 7245 97.7 1.271 -06.0 98 58.28 2562 3644 52381 7370 98.3 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! -04.0 100 59.52 2613 3791 55916 7485 98.8 1.201 ! Near Maximum ! -02.0 103 60.76 2664 3940 59700 7590 99.2 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +00.0 105 62.00 2715 4091 63753 7682 99.5 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +02.0 107 63.24 2765 4244 68100 7763 99.7 1.103 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 109 64.48 2815 4399 72768 7831 99.9 1.073 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +06.0 111 65.72 2865 4555 77786 7886 100.0 1.044 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 113 66.96 2914 4714 83189 7929 100.0 1.016 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 115 68.20 2963 4874 89017 7968 100.0 0.989 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 105 62.00 2817 4406 76064 7365 100.0 1.059 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 105 62.00 2567 3657 51828 7672 95.3 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! Cartridge : .370 Sako Mag Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756 Useable Case Capaci: 64.279 grain H2O = 4.174 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 4895 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 82 48.80 2195 2674 32513 6337 93.3 1.525 -18.0 84 50.02 2247 2802 34679 6513 94.3 1.484 -16.0 86 51.24 2298 2933 36988 6681 95.2 1.444 -14.0 89 52.46 2350 3066 39448 6842 96.1 1.402 -12.0 91 53.68 2401 3201 42070 6995 96.8 1.361 -10.0 93 54.90 2453 3339 44866 7139 97.5 1.322 -08.0 95 56.12 2504 3480 47848 7273 98.1 1.284 -06.0 97 57.34 2554 3622 51029 7397 98.6 1.248 -04.0 99 58.56 2605 3767 54426 7511 99.0 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! -02.0 101 59.78 2655 3914 58055 7613 99.4 1.179 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 103 61.00 2705 4062 61935 7704 99.7 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +02.0 105 62.22 2755 4212 66089 7783 99.9 1.116 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 107 63.44 2804 4364 70539 7849 100.0 1.086 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +06.0 109 64.66 2853 4518 75312 7903 100.0 1.057 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 111 65.88 2901 4673 80440 7950 100.0 1.029 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 113 67.10 2950 4830 85955 7994 100.0 1.002 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 103 61.00 2806 4372 74026 7379 100.0 1.070 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 103 61.00 2558 3632 50226 7719 95.7 1.250 Just for you info IMR 4350 As you can see you run out of case way before you hit any pressure. Cartridge : .370 Sako Mag Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756 Useable Case Capaci: 64.279 grain H2O = 4.174 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 4350 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 84 49.60 1957 2127 25618 5285 80.5 1.678 -18.0 86 50.84 2006 2234 27249 5477 81.8 1.634 -16.0 88 52.08 2055 2344 28988 5666 83.2 1.591 -14.0 90 53.32 2104 2457 30843 5853 84.4 1.550 -12.0 93 54.56 2153 2573 32817 6038 85.7 1.509 -10.0 95 55.80 2203 2693 34932 6220 86.9 1.470 -08.0 97 57.04 2253 2817 37190 6397 88.1 1.431 -06.0 99 58.28 2303 2943 39604 6570 89.2 1.390 -04.0 101 59.52 2353 3073 42188 6739 90.3 1.351 -02.0 103 60.76 2404 3207 44957 6902 91.3 1.313 +00.0 105 62.00 2454 3344 47927 7059 92.3 1.276 +02.0 107 63.24 2505 3484 51118 7209 93.2 1.241 +04.0 109 64.48 2556 3627 54549 7352 94.1 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! +06.0 112 65.72 2607 3774 58245 7487 94.9 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! +08.0 114 66.96 2659 3924 62233 7614 95.7 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 116 68.20 2710 4078 66540 7732 96.4 1.109 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 105 62.00 2590 3723 57250 7240 97.6 1.185 ! Near Maximum ! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 105 62.00 2287 2905 39571 6580 83.9 1.392 As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Ramrod I think your right about IMR 4350. Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | |||
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