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I just got a model 98 8mm given to me with 2 boxes of shells (170g rem and winchester). I will soot it today and chronograph, I was just wondering if anyone had a good starting load so I can workup. Does anyone know how to tell where it was manufactured, from what I see there are 3 matching serial #s (action,floorplate and bolt) It does have 2 stamps on it which look like a bird with a circle in it's talons. I will report back with the range data later. Thanks | ||
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Normally I'd recommend the Hodgdon website for loading data but I haven't been able to access their data for a week now and they haven't returned emails either. H-414 would be my starting powder and bullets from 170 to 200 grains /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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8X57 Mauser data from Hodgdon site, it just worked OK for me Vapodog so worth checking again: 125 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.880" 47.0 2730 36,600 CUP 54.0 3092 48,100 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4320 .323" 2.880" 45.5 2621 36,400 CUP 52.5 2979 48,100 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.880" 46.0 2736 34,300 CUP 50.0C 2927 41,700 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP Winchester 748 .323" 2.880" 50.0 2742 33,100 CUP 55.0 2974 37,200 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 2.880" 53.0 2916 36,300 CUP 55.0 3026 40,600 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.880" 47.0 2717 37,000 CUP 52.0 2945 43,700 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H335 .323" 2.880" 47.0 2846 37,300 CUP 53.0 3155 48,800 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.880" 47.0 2843 37,300 CUP 53.5 3208 49,400 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 3031 .323" 2.880" 44.0 2736 34,800 CUP 48.0 2987 43,300 CUP 125 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 2.880" 43.5 2728 36,400 CUP 49.8 3068 49,700 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 2.950" 50.0 2579 34,400 CUP 54.5 2791 40,800 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.950" 45.5 2561 37,500 CUP 52.4C 2896 49,000 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4320 .323" 2.950" 41.0 2377 35,400 CUP 50.5 2818 48,800 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.950" 42.0 2486 34,800 CUP 49.5 2839 46,200 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 2.950" 50.0 2690 36,600 CUP 55.0 2962 48,400 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.950" 42.0 2482 36,700 CUP 49.5 2847 48,000 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H335 .323" 2.950" 44.0 2631 37,400 CUP 50.8 2942 48,800 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.950" 44.0 2619 37,200 CUP 51.0 2987 49,500 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 3031 .323" 2.950" 41.5 2534 35,200 CUP 46.5 2815 47,300 CUP 150 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 2.950" 42.5 2577 36,900 CUP 47.5 2860 48,800 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 2.825" 48.0 2418 34,800 CUP 54.5C 2726 45,600 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.825" 43.0 2362 36,700 CUP 50.5 2700 48,700 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN IMR IMR 4320 .323" 2.825" 39.0 2195 34,400 CUP 49.8 2680 49,200 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.825" 41.5 2345 35,700 cUP 48.7 2706 49,300 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Winchester 748 .323" 2.825" 46.0 2467 35,600 CUP 54.0 2832 48,500 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 2.825" 48.8 2560 36,800 CUP 53.5 2839 48,800 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.825" 40.0 2284 36,600 CUP 48.0 2647 47,900 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H335 .323" 2.825" 42.5 2421 37,400 CUP 49.2 2738 48,800 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.825" 40.0 2306 37,400 CUP 49.0 2769 48,700 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN IMR IMR 3031 .323" 2.825" 40.0 2355 35,000 CUP 45.5 2640 47,500 CUP 170 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 2.825" 41.0 2397 37,100 CUP 46.6 2679 49,100 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 3.100" 48.0 2450 36,300 CUP 54.0C 2733 48,500 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Hodgdon Varget .323" 3.100" 43.0 2418 37,200 CUP 50.5 2716 48,500 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP IMR IMR 4320 .323" 3.100" 39.0 2209 36,100 CUP 48.5 2619 49,800 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP IMR IMR 4064 .323" 3.100" 41.0 2340 36,600 CUP 48.0C 2687 49,100 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Winchester 748 .323" 3.100" 48.0 2524 37,500 CUP 53.0 2748 46,600 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 3.100" 48.8 2595 36,800 CUP 53.5 2818 46,700 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP IMR IMR 4895 .323" 3.100" 39.5 2246 35,900 CUP 48.0 2642 48,400 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Hodgdon H335 .323" 3.100" 42.5 2446 37,100 CUP 48.0 2722 48,400 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Hodgdon H4895 .323" 3.100" 40.0 2387 36,800 CUP 49.4 2762 48,300 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP IMR IMR 3031 .323" 3.100" 39.0 2341 37,300 CUP 45.0 2625 48,900 CUP 175 GR. SIE SP Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 3.100" 41.0 2414 37,100 CUP 46.2 2657 48,400 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 2.960" 45.0 2262 33,400 CUP 50.0C 2534 42,800 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.960" 41.0 2256 35,800 CUP 47.8C 2570 48,400 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX IMR IMR 4320 .323" 2.960" 38.0 2087 34,700 CUP 46.3 2481 48,700 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.960" 39.5 2251 36,300 CUP 45.0C 2529 48,400 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Winchester 748 .323" 2.960" 39.0 2219 36,200 CUP 45.5 2542 49,000 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 2.960" 39.0 2153 34,200 CUP 45.5 2487 48,500 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.960" 40.0 2235 36,400 CUP 46.0C 2525 47,900 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Hodgdon H335 .323" 2.960" 36.5 2163 35,500 CUP 43.0 2483 48,900 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.960" 39.0 2259 36,800 CUP 46.0C 2565 48,700 CUP 180 GR. BAR TSX Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 2.960" 34.0 2104 37,200 CUP 42.0 2466 48,800 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 3.020" 47.0 2366 36,400 CUP 51.5C 2599 47,600 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Varget .323" 3.020" 42.0 2309 36,600 CUP 48.8 2641 49,400 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4320 .323" 3.020" 38.0 2140 35,800 CUP 47.3 2533 48,500 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4064 .323" 3.020" 40.0 2259 35,400 CUP 45.0C 2538 47,800 CUp 180 GR. NOS BT Winchester 748 .323" 3.020" 42.0 2295 35,700 CUP 47.0 2587 49,400 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon BL-C(2) .323" 3.020" 44.5 2439 36,700 CUP 48.5 2669 48,500 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4895 .323" 3.020" 41.5 2291 36,900 CUP 46.8 2562 48,300 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H335 .323" 3.020" 38.0 2267 36,100 CUP 43.7 2557 48,100 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4895 .323" 3.020" 41.0 2387 36,300 CUP 47.7 2691 49,300 CUP 180 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Benchmark .323" 3.020" 39.0 2304 36,800 CUP 44.5 2586 48,900 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H4350 .323" 2.970" 49.0 2276 35,900 CUP 54.0C 2522 44,800 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H414 .323" 2.970" 45.0 2229 36,900 CUP 50.0 2475 47,300 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 2.970" 45.0 2220 35,600 CUP 50.0C 2489 45,800 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.970" 40.5 2183 36,900 CUP 47.5 2511 49,100 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.970" 40.0 2193 36,200 CUP 44.5 2401 48,300 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP Winchester 748 .323" 2.970" 40.0 2151 35,300 CUP 44.8 2408 48,000 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.970" 39.0 2112 34,900 CUP 45.0 2409 48,500 CUP 200 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.970" 38.0 2240 36,800 CUP 45.4 2539 49,200 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .323" 2.970" 45.0 2134 34,500 CUP 50.0C 2380 45,200 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Varget .323" 2.970" 39.0 2055 36,800 CUP 46.8 2390 48,800 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4064 .323" 2.970" 39.5 2090 36,100 CUP 43.0C 2275 47,700 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP Winchester 748 .323" 2.970" 40.0 2034 34,200 CUP 44.5 2270 43,200 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4895 .323" 2.970" 39.5 2091 36,100 CUP 45.0C 2325 48,500 CUP 220 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H4895 .323" 2.970" 40.0 2178 37,200 CUP 45.2 2420 48,800 CUP | |||
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Thank you for all that info. Rem 170g rn chrono @ 2350 average Win 170g sp chrono @ 2400 average and more accurate about 1 1/2 in groups. I think it'll shoot much better with a good reload. Thanks again for the info. | |||
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There are various mauser collector sites on the web that can point you in the right direction to find more info on your rifle. Being such a popular rifle over such a long time, you may find that it's impossible to pinpoint your rifle's exact date and place of manufacture. Many have been re-arsenaled and exported until they've lost all identity. If the enemy is in range, so are you. - Infantry manual | |||
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