Everyone keep their panties on please!

While I read the thread somewhat hastily, I have to say I didn't see any mention of what brand of ammo it was...only that the caliber was .300 RUM

The original post claims that it was factory ammo. Fair enough. Also that the loads were "reduced."

Does anyone remember that Remington offers 3 different "power-levels" in 300 RUM ammo? Check out their website.

In fact, they advertise a full house (my words) load; a second load that approximates a 300 Win mag; and a 3rd load that approximates a 30-06.

Now, I Do Not know how they step-down these loads; I don't know if they're using a smaller powder charge.

What I can say for certain is that Remington markets them under the "Power-Level" label.

I would be interested to know what kind of factory ammo it was...

friar

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Originally posted by friarmeier:
Everyone keep their panties on please!

While I read the thread somewhat hastily, I have to say I didn't see any mention of what brand of ammo it was...only that the caliber was .300 RUM

The original post claims that it was factory ammo. Fair enough. Also that the loads were "reduced."

Does anyone remember that Remington offers 3 different "power-levels" in 300 RUM ammo? Check out their website.

In fact, they advertise a full house (my words) load; a second load that approximates a 300 Win mag; and a 3rd load that approximates a 30-06.

Now, I Do Not know how they step-down these loads; I don't know if they're using a smaller powder charge.

What I can say for certain is that Remington markets them under the "Power-Level" label.

I would be interested to know what kind of factory ammo it was...

friar

Friar,

As always is the case with these incidents, we really don't know what the cause is.

We are predisposed to assume what was reported.....and that may be totally in error. Not necessarily untruthful....just bad communication.....

Any assumption of fault is simply that....assumption...and it seems we all like to play "Sherlock Holmes" because it's a bit scary and we want to know what happened so we may avoid it.

There may have been a dozen "blowups" posted on AR in the last seven years I've been here and in no case ever was the cause definitively discovered. We have had a lot of speculation and that's normal....but it never seems to be conclusive.

It is claimed to be factory ammo....this may or not be true....it is claimed that two of the cases are half full.....this too may be false...

No one was hurt this time....that's the good news...it's only a few dollars lost. Let us be thankful.

Ah.....The dreaded S.E.E. returns to Accurate Reloading........ I had an S.E.E. on the crapper this morning!!!
Hafta' consult Hot Bore on this...... Grant.

Yeah, it always surprises me when it isn't a (total rag) p-64 M70 Ka-Booooooming.

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Originally posted by 243winxb:
Recall on ammo & rifles happens. Remember the Tikka 2004 recall?

That's a Sako, not a tikka.

So i left out Sako. You have a good eye. "Beretta USA did perform a recall on a very limited number of Sako and Tikka rifles in 2004. The vast majority of these firearms were returned and new firearms with different serial numbers issued. If you would like to check your serial number, please click here. This application will check your serial number and advise you if your firearm was affected by the recall." Link to Sako/Tikka Recall

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Originally posted by 243winxb:
"Beretta USA did perform a recall on a very limited number of Sako and Tikka rifles in 2004. The vast majority of these firearms were returned and new firearms with different serial numbers issued. If you would like to check your serial number, please click here. This application will check your serial number and advise you if your firearm was affected by the recall." Link to Sako/Tikka Recall

Bloody hell, thanks for that!

I've just a bought a new old stock Sako 75 as a varmint/target rifle. It's probably of that era.

I'll check it out.

Ok,

I'll confess... I convinced Remington to try factory loading Blue Dot in their 300 Ultra Mags...

Looks like they weren't following the directions I gave them...

or they didn't follow Hot Core's instructions on CHE pressure testing...

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
Ok,

I'll confess... I convinced Remington to try factory loading Blue Dot in their 300 Ultra Mags...

Looks like they weren't following the directions I gave them...

or they didn't follow Hot Core's instructions on CHE pressure testing...

I thought Hotsh#t was either one of the engineers on that project or the team leader?????

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Originally posted by TEANCUM:

quote:

Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
Ok,

I'll confess... I convinced Remington to try factory loading Blue Dot in their 300 Ultra Mags...

Looks like they weren't following the directions I gave them...

or they didn't follow Hot Core's instructions on CHE pressure testing...

I thought Hotsh#t was either one of the engineers on that project or the team leader?????

All the while, still having time to go out and slay thousands of deer? You gotta give it to Hot Core... the man is as versatile as he is talented...

plus being able to spend time in here, setting us all straight...

How does he do it all?

I stand in total AWE!

I surely would like to know what really happened here, but, I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure.

An incident like that happened with a M1a rifle. The barrel was at fault. It was not made from the proper steels.

So why can't this be the same?

Who knows. Just sharing the mail and its claims.

Didn't come from anyone with an "anti-reduced load" bias that I know of. I don't see any reason for a misstatement unless the mail just got messed up during the forwarding process.

Stainless steel, cold temps, and .550" caseheads seem prone to do this.

In December of 69, after I received a 243 for Christmas, my pop and I headed out to the range to sight it in. He had purchased 4 boxes of shells from a local Sporting good store.

We set up at the range, and he shot the first round down range, everything fine. Pulled the second round from the other side of the box, chambered it, and squeezed the trigger, and pop. He pulled the bolt, and the empty case came out. Then he proceeded to run the cleaning rod down the muzzle, and with a couple of slights tap he removed the bullet.

Then he takes the next round out from the same side as the last, and he shakes it, no sound. He pulled the round from the other side and shakes it and hears the powder. Then he hands them to me to do the same. We checked all four boxes and they were all the same. One side had no powder and one side did.

Then we spoke to the fellow next to us at the range, who also verified this, and gave him his contact info. He had been watching us since we knocked out the bullet with the cleaning rod.

From there we headed straight to the store the bullets came from and spoke with the fellow who sold them to us. He said they had a non return policy on ammo. Well my pop didn't go for that at all and demanded to speak with the manager.

After it was all said and done, we had new ammo of a different make, that all made noise when you shook it, the manager pulled the whole rest of the same manufacturers bullets from his shelves in all calibers while we were there. Several weeks later we received a package in the mail from the manufacturer with all sorts of stuff in it, including a letter and check to cover our cost on the ammo.

Luckily my pop was knowing enough to check things over after the differences between the first and second round. Had it been me at the time, and the second bullet only gone in the barrel enough to chamber the next round it could have been bad, or if we had shot one box with plenty of powder and the next box had been the one we hunted with. Either way it scared my pop thinking I would or could have been shooting those shells and possibly had a very bad experience.