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How do they compare as far as muzzle flash in defense type loads? I have other powders that I use for this application and if I could get it locally, I'd probably use Ramshot Silhouette which is the same powder as what was previously sold by Winchester as WAP. V-V 3N37 works very well, but same problem: can't get it locally and the price seems to continually go up. Looking to replace the 3N37 with WSF or 4756. Thanks in advance for your thoughts! ![]() "No one told you when to run; you missed the starting gun." | ||
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WSF is a fine powder for the 40 S&W. It is close to magic with 135 gr Nosler bullets. In a very well built custom 1911-based comp gun with a ramped barrel I have gotten 1500+ fps with it. I do NOT recommend that sort of thing for a stock gun or a novice loader! Normal loads work well in bullet weights up to about 180. As a side benefit, WSF makes a great powder for loading 9mm practice ammo ... 125 gr cast bullets. Have not used the other powder. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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mstarling: does it burn clean? What is muzzle flash like? IMR SR4756 is a very clean burning powder. Performance wise, they're close enough for that to be a non issue. As far as cast loads and such, I have that pretty well covered. I'm using four different powders currently and the best accuracy is coming with Ramshot True Blue which I have to order online and pay brown's haz-mat fee, just like V-V 3N37. Bullet weights will run from 150 gr. JHPs to 165 gr. Golden Sabers. Flash and cleanliness are the two considerations I'm most concerned with. ![]() "No one told you when to run; you missed the starting gun." | |||
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WSF is very clean burning. Less flash than 3N37 in 40 S&W. The only place I've used 4756 has been in loads for 2" 38 Spl. In that application it has considerable flash. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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AA #5 is my choice for the SW40. It was originally an IMI powder and had a flash retardant in it. Don't know about the stuff they are using today. #5 was a good powder for loads in my SW40. Kudude | |||
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Kudude, I agree that #5 is a good powder for 40 S&W. Have used a lot of #5, 3N37, WSF, and Trap 100. For light weight, very high velocity stuff WSF can't be beat! For the light and middle weights (135-165) WSF works best for me. For the standard weights either 3N37 or #5 is great. For heavies (220) the goodie is Trap 100. WSF works better in 125 gr alloy conical or RN 9mm than the others. I've shot a wheelbarrow or two full of them in an M16 subgun. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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kudude: AA#5 is the first powder I used in .40 when I started loading it right after it came out. It is a very low flash powder. The nitroglycerin content is fairly high so more than likely, it is still treated with a retardent. mstarling: WSF got a good reputation for accuracy early on, but somehow I never got around to trying it. I bought a CZ 75 B in .40 S&W a couple of weeks ago and it is very accurate. I hadn't been shooting forty for about 4 or 5 years previous to this. It has me excited about shooting .40 again. If flash is low in .40 S&W, that will work. Thanks guys! ![]() If you guys can get True Blue, it is worth trying. Accuracy is great and it gives very low standard deviations. As far as cleanliness, it could be better, probably a bit cleaner than #5, but neither are dirty enough to bother me anyway. "No one told you when to run; you missed the starting gun." | |||
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