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I have an AR15 cartridge that launches these at a hair over 2600fps. My question for those of you whose used this bullet on game is if you feel my MV is high enough to get over this bullet's minimum velocity threshold for expansion on whitetail out to 200yds and maybe a tad more? ---------------------------------------- If you waste your time a talkin' to the people who don't listen To the things that you are sayin' who do you thinks gonna hear And if you should die explainin' how the thing they complain about Or the things they could be changing who do you thinks gonna care Waylon Jennings | ||
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NOBODY?? OH well, I guess I'll just see if I can turn a deer into a Guinea Pig ---------------------------------------- If you waste your time a talkin' to the people who don't listen To the things that you are sayin' who do you thinks gonna hear And if you should die explainin' how the thing they complain about Or the things they could be changing who do you thinks gonna care Waylon Jennings | |||
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At 2600 fps MV, yes, it will expand to 200 yards and will do fine on deer out to that range. At this modest velocity, you'll get textbook expansion and excellent penetration. Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Hey Krochus, Sorry you didn't get a whole lot of help on this one. I too load for the 7.62x39 and have found the 125 Sierra to shoot amazingly well. I think I have told you this before, but Sierra says the .308 125gr PH is designed for very high velocities and will just pencil through at x39 velocities, but I have not tested it on game. I am very curious as well, if you shoot one this fall with the 125, please post your findings. Me, this year I am shooting 135gr Sierra SSP with 29gr of H322. Sure wish Sierra still made this one. I only have about 500 left. | |||
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This post is in refrence to my 30HRT upper, as noted I can move these out at over 2600 fps which for the most part betters my top x39 load by about 200fps. I don't think I'd be using this bullet to hunt if I were using my 7.62x39 upper. and yes these bullets are staggeringly good shooters ---------------------------------------- If you waste your time a talkin' to the people who don't listen To the things that you are sayin' who do you thinks gonna hear And if you should die explainin' how the thing they complain about Or the things they could be changing who do you thinks gonna care Waylon Jennings | |||
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I reloaded some of these for a friend several years ago. This was loaded in a 308 Win and loaded down a bit for him. He killed a 135 pound buck with it. It expanded properly and was recovered under the hide on the off side. Not bad for a quartering shot at 180 yards. | |||
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I loaded some of these in a reduced .308 deer load for my son, but he ended up using a different rifle and never shot anything with them. One day earlier this year when I was doing a bullet expansion and penetration test in wet newsprint, I shot a couple of them for giggles, and was very impressed. I posted it up here on AR somewhere, but dont remember where. Let me see if I can find it and I will link it here. I found it, here it is. http://forums.accuratereloadin...461004601#9461004601 | |||
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Hi Krouchus. I have used the 125 pro-hunter in both 3006 at 3150fps and in my 308 at about 2900. It has taken every deer I shot with it, about 5 I would say . one was a four point at about 250, fell like a rock. In the 308 it will put 10 rounds in a one inch group at 100yd. Good bullet. | |||
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I'm not one to use a less than good bullet on deer. I hunt for meat and excess damage is wasteful. The ProHunter has a good reputation, and driven at 2600 fps it should work pretty well. See what happens. If you get too much damage then you go to a 150 gr bullet. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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never used the 125 grain but the 165 grains are real nasty on deer. | |||
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buckeyeshooter, are you really refering to the Prohunter flatbase? Or was your experience with a Gameking? I find the Prohunter to be harder and more stable than the Gameking. | |||
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The 125's I used were Pro Hunters, not Game Kings. I would think a boat tail on a bullet that short wouldn't leave much bearing surface. | |||
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Mcfox, I have used both. The prohunters are harder, but will tear up a whitetail pretty good from a 30-06 inside 100 yards. The gameking SBT's leave about a softball sized exit when you shoot a whitetail through both shoulders. They are very soft. I do like them though as the area I hunt is very, very thick and a 100 yard run with a light bloodtrail can make for a hard time finding the game. These bullets generally give you a 'snowplow' or a bloodtrail like a 5 gallon bucket of paint poured out through the woods. | |||
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I have used that bullet in my .30-30. I have had no trouble dropping chest-shot deer. Always a pass through. This turns my marlin into a two shooter. One in the chamber/one in the magazine. | |||
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I have whacked a lot of runnung boar on our target range with that bullet from a 30/06, loaded with 33 grain Vihta N110 to ~800 m/s. Allows me to shoot a lot with the rifle for driven hunts, little heating and low recoil. Also way less expensive than the partitions that I regularily shoot. At 60 meters the POI of both loads are close enough for practice purposes. | |||
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I am glad to hear that the prohunter is a pretty tough bullet as I have switched to 120 gr in my 7mm rem mag to reduce recoil and am getting about 3400 fps at max load and about 3320 fps just under the max. I had sort of decided to avoid the shoulders as I dont like to ruin the meat and wasnt going to really mind if they blew up while shooting through the ribs. Actually hope that they do blow up to minimize the tracking. I also never heard that the game-kings were softer than the pro-hunters. That really surprises me and I am still not sure if I believe it. IS that consistent with Sierra claims ? | |||
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This is all very interesting to me as my new toy is a Remington 799 in the 7.62x39 caliber. I intend to push the 125 - 130 grain bullets as fast as possible and use it for a coyote gun and teaching the young ones in my house who are interested in hunting. Here in Missouruh there don't seem to be shots over 250 yards so my only concern is if the bullet will open up an the mild velocities. So... I don't mean to hijack the thread but any experiences with other than Sierra bullets? Most people are bothered by those portions of Scripture they do not understand, it is the passages I do understand that bother me. (Twain) | |||
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ask and ye shall receive http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405210 | |||
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Krochus, We are brothers at heart! I'm just north of you and hunting the same deer. Nice looking pile of meat you have there in the pic. The longest shots I'll take will be around 215 yards and that depends on the tree stand used. I hadn't thought about the Nosler either. Once I get my reloading room finished it's apparently time for some reading. Thanks again Most people are bothered by those portions of Scripture they do not understand, it is the passages I do understand that bother me. (Twain) | |||
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