HI,

can anybody shed any light on shipping brass cases from the US to the UK?
Better still can you bring it in your luggage?
Is it allowed?

I have never shipped cases or bullets to Europe, but I have shipped "machined copper parts" and "formed brass parts" many times. Just don't bother to declare the value as what you paid for them. Also, pack them very securely (2-3 layers of cardboard) and especially in a manner that they don't rattle. No one likes "formed brass parts" or "machined copper parts" that rattle. Big 'effin faux paux.

I've sent complete rounds (less powder and primer) to 460 Wby in Norway for his collection. I told the post office exactly what they were, inert, "dummy", firearms cartridges. Had no problem whatsoever.

i got a (16 x 42 mildot) optical instrument from US to Spain ok a while back

Alex

present Federal regulations prevent unpriimed brass being shipped to the U.K without a valid export licence having been issued, to obtain this the sender will require you as improter to have an import licence from the DTI this end, it is a real hassle, until failr recently this was not the case.

The person sending who does so without an export licence risks penal sanctions in the U.S.

Believe it or not I tried the other day to order amongst other things a elasticated cartridge carrier to fit to a rifle stock, such as those made by Uncle Mikes, Cabelas cannot ship this to me nthe U.K as it is a restricted item, I suppose this is to stop me turning it into a weapon of mass destruction, or alternatively to use the elastic for a catapult

you can of course ask a U.K based dealer who holds an open imnport permit for firearms accessories etc to import some cases on your behalf, provided you stood the costs of shipping and the obtaining of an export permit from the U.S

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Originally posted by Jonathan Tomlinson:
Alex

present Federal regulations prevent unpriimed brass being shipped to the U.K without a valid export licence having been issued, to obtain this the sender will require you as improter to have an import licence from the DTI this end, it is a real hassle, until failr recently this was not the case.

The person sending who does so without an export licence risks penal sanctions in the U.S.

Believe it or not I tried the other day to order amongst other things a elasticated cartridge carrier to fit to a rifle stock, such as those made by Uncle Mikes, Cabelas cannot ship this to me nthe U.K as it is a restricted item, I suppose this is to stop me turning it into a weapon of mass destruction, or alternatively to use the elastic for a catapult

you can of course ask a U.K based dealer who holds an open imnport permit for firearms accessories etc to import some cases on your behalf, provided you stood the costs of shipping and the obtaining of an export permit from the U.S

This is not surprising at all. The Brits seem to like laws that restrict anything related to firearms. Brass cases are not legal to be sent to South Africa as well. Why?.......they don't have the second ammendment in their constitution and we don't have all the liberals in this country.

Thanks for the info jonathan, I havnt looked into it yet but im sure the extra cost will knock that idea on the head.
Thanks anyway

Alex

What cases you after, maybe I can help, I have a great many contacts both here and overseas.

If you let me know type and quantity I can advise further

JT

Vapodog

I too would like to know why, here brass cases are unregulated and can be sent via inland mail or to other European Coutries no problem, just items passing between here and the U.S ( and now Zimbabwe) seem caught up, one source in the U.S told me that Federal shipping restrictions apply to any item that can have a dual military/civil use.

You are however right that we do have some extremely strict gun laws, which like any gun control, only affect the lawful user, criminals do not register their weapons and the authorities can only further penalise those they know to own sporting guns lawfully.

You are extremely lucky to have the constitution enshrined Second Amendment, guard it well.

JT

I don't know if it was just overlooked or what but, I sent 100 nickle palted .416 Remington cases to RSA about 18 months ago with no repecussions.

what exactly are you looking for, cos from here in Spain i can send what you want, or get it from france or germany ok for you.

The restrictions on shipping brass from
here to anywhere is recent State Dept,
Commerce Dept, Homeland dept and
Customs laws put into effect.
Not ATF or a gun control particularly, just
export controls after 911.Unless you
get export permit, which can take
months just for one shipment or are licensed company(with a big license fee to pay)
to export..I'm getting calls for 700HE
and am going to have to have others that
are licenced ship, with extra expense and handling.

Of course this makes it a real pain for collectors, in that if anything is
caught by a spot inspection, that
didn't meet all the letters of the law,
I think it is confiscated and
would be destroyed...Ie they ain't gonna
return it and some collector and trader is out something that is rare and
valuable..Ed.

Ed

I am on the list for a few 700 cases as and when they are head stamped etc, still need to sort out shipping to the U.K though

Jonathan,
.20 tactical cases and as for quantity, what ever makes a shipment viable, I know a couple of other guys that would probably want some.
Thanks in advance for looking

Alex

The .20 Tactical (20-.223" I think?) is not an overly popular case here in the U.K at present.

It is not one I have a ready source for but suggest in chronological order you try

David Ryan at Minsterley
Callum Ferguson at PRS;

failing which

Peter Lincoln at Roedale Precision in Germany I feel certain he should be able to help you out.

Peter regularly ships coponent parts from the U.S to Germany and specialises in wildcats and custom chamberings as does Callum.

It should not be a problem for him to order for you a quantity of Brass, probably Midway in the U.S will keep it in stock.

Getting it from Germany to the U.K is the easy part as no restrictions exists on brass cases as long as they are un-primed. Peter holds a valid import licences at his end to place the order with the U.S.

The slow part will be getting the export permit from US to Germany but he will sort this for you. Naturally the greater the order placed, then the cost of the paperwork etc will be diluted, probably a minimum order of 300 cases may make the project worthwhile.

you can drop him a line on e-mail by following the thread on www.roedaleprecision.com.
It may even be worth trying Peter first.

Sorry I can't be of more help on this particular case

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The person sending who does so without an export licence risks penal sanctions in the U.S.

They think of it as penile restrictions. I guess they would rather have junkies on the street than gun-owners.
Frank