I have some 9.3x74R that were reloaded in Norma cases with Nosler Partitions. After being loaded, some of the bullets can be rotated in the cases. Are these not crimped correctly or is there another problem? The crimp is on the cannelure and I cannot pull them out be hand. Can these be shot for practise so they can be reloaded again? Your assistance would be appreciated.

i had a 7MM-08 die from RCBS after resizing i could almost put the bullet in by hand. they told my to resize 3 and not resized 3 that was shot from my rifle. they sent me a new die. free...

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Originally posted by Jim Anderson:
After being loaded, some of the bullets can be rotated in the cases. Are these not crimped correctly or is there another problem? The crimp is on the cannelure and I cannot pull them out be hand. Can these be shot for practise so they can be reloaded again? Your assistance would be appreciated.

Since the 9.3x74R is for use in a double or single shot, just so the bullet doesn't fall out of the case is sufficient. If everything else is ok, such as the load itself, then just because the bullet is loose as you described is no reason to be concerned, IMO, for practice shooting. I wwouldn't want to use them for hunting, but they would probably be ok for that too, if sufficiently crimped to hold the bullets in place.

I had no idea that Lee made dies for the 9.3x74R.

I think something is wrong with the expander button in the dies you have whatever brand they are. Measure it out of curosity. Naturally it should be a bit smaller than bullet diameter.

KB

Anneal the case neck.

Bullets should NOT turn in the case neck! If they do then something is wrong, likely in your die set-up or in your crimping procedure! Either way, they are likely OK to shoot but you may have eratic accuracy. Tension between the bullet and the case neck is what makes for consistent, accurate loads. Crimp is useful(in the main) for ensuring the bullets do not move in (or out) of the case under the recoil from the previous shot(s). In instances where the crimp is excessively applied it can buckel the case at the shoulder, to the extent it can be hard or even impossible to chamber that round. Hope this helps.

A lot of the Carcano military ammo from my past had loose bullets. It looked, as I remember, it could have been by design. Nothing bad ever happened. roger

Check your expander, it should be .002" smaller + than the bullet diameter. Remove the expander from the full length die. Resize 1 case, measure the neck area over when the bullet will be. Seat a bullet, has the neck expanded .002" or more? If so, the Full lenght die is OK. Check bullet diameter, should be around .366" For a double rifle, a crimp might be needed if the bullet has moved in the 2nd round after firing the 1st round. No crimp for a single shot rifle.

Ease up a bit on your crimp. If you are forcing the lip of the bullet too strongly into the channelure, it can bow up the rest of the neck away from the bullet.
It ain't a world stopper problem. And it ain't unusual to buy store bought ammo that lets the bullet rotate.

I had the same problem with Bertram brass in my 10.75x68. No problem with RWS or Horneber brass. Finally, had Lee build me a factory crimp die to use with the Bertram.

Through away your expander button, leave away the crimp and you'll be fine.

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Originally posted by R D McMillan:
Bullets should NOT turn in the case neck! If they do then something is wrong, likely in your die set-up or in your crimping procedure! Either way, they are likely OK to shoot but you may have eratic accuracy. Tension between the bullet and the case neck is what makes for consistent, accurate loads. Crimp is useful(in the main) for ensuring the bullets do not move in (or out) of the case under the recoil from the previous shot(s). In instances where the crimp is excessively applied it can buckel the case at the shoulder, to the extent it can be hard or even impossible to chamber that round. Hope this helps.

Read this again...

it is good advice