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Barnes 375 300 gr Flat Nose Vs 300 gr Round Nose

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16 March 2024, 05:48
RAR60
Barnes 375 300 gr Flat Nose Vs 300 gr Round Nose
Im taking a trip in July and dug out my bullets and have been tryin to get the 300gr banded solid flat nose to print like my 300gr TSX. I think I've got it but I'm about out of bullets. I went to order and see they have went to a round nose. Put micrometer on them and they are longer. Is my previous arm thumping all in vain by having to start over?


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16 March 2024, 15:35
p dog shooter
quote:
Is my previous arm thumping all in vain by having to start over?


Until you load them and shoot them. How will you know.
16 March 2024, 17:58
RAR60
At this point, there isn't any load data from Barnes that I find on their website. I have their No. 4 book but it just has the flat nose.
I have contacted customer service and will call Mon.


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16 March 2024, 18:03
K Evans
In my rifle the round nose shoot a bit lower at 100 yards than the flat nose, same load, but shoot about 60 fps faster. Both shoot close enough to TTX to work OK. But I prefer the flat nose, just seems to me like they would hit harder Wink.


Karl Evans

17 March 2024, 16:18
p dog shooter
quote:
But I prefer the flat nose, just seems to me like they would hit harder .


We all know something flat hits harder then something round.

Just drop a 10lb bar of lead on your foot then a 10lb round lead ball on your foot.

Tell us what one hurts the most.

stir
17 March 2024, 20:42
Hipshoot
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
quote:
But I prefer the flat nose, just seems to me like they would hit harder .


We all know something flat hits harder then something round.

Just drop a 10lb bar of lead on your foot then a 10lb round lead ball on your foot.

That sounds cool! I'm gonna try that tomorrow just to see for myself! faint

Hip

Tell us what one hurts the most.

stir

17 March 2024, 21:18
K Evans
quote:
But I prefer the flat nose, just seems to me like they would hit harder .


We all know something flat hits harder then something round.

Just drop a 10lb bar of lead on your foot then a 10lb round lead ball on your foot.

Tell us what one hurts the most.

stir[/QUOTE]

Using the formula to calculate impact
(F = mv/2t), all things except shape being equal, your 10lb chunks of lead hit with equal impact. That’s why I said it “seems” the flat nose hits harder Wink


Karl Evans

18 March 2024, 02:30
crbutler
That older thread here seemed to show that largish flat meplat bullets outpenetrate the round nose rounds.

What I use solids for, its straight line penetration that I am looking for. Mathematically, the energy is the same. The difference between flat pointed and round nose solids may not be significant in the real world, but it is a comfort to me.

I have had no failures with the flat pointed bullets (Barnes, TBSS, Swift hydro, Northfork)... so I am not "fixing what is not broken..."

I switched to Northfork solids when Barnes went to the RN format as far as handloading them.

The round nose definitely are easier to make feed reliably. Some rifles won't feed flat points without some significant gunsmithing. That was what I was told was behind Barnes going back to round nose solids. Admittedly, a reliably feeding solid is more important than a little more straight line penetration.
22 March 2024, 16:51
WV Hitman
I used a 260 gr. Nosler Solid( FP) on a hippo with my .375/.284 XP handgun at 120 yds. on a frontal brain shot. Found the bullet 3/4 way thru the body. That was super performance as far as I was concerned.


Larry Rogers
23 March 2024, 17:45
ledvm
CEB 300 gr safari solids shoot to the same point of impact as 300 gr TSX in 3 different rifles.

Flat point solids do “seem” to hit harder to me as well. But for damn sure they penetrate straighter and almost always exit.


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