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Question :Reloading cartridges 7.62x39?
04 October 2009, 20:10
kaizer2007Question :Reloading cartridges 7.62x39?
Question : who did Reloading cartridges 7.62x39 and with what weight of bullet and gunpowder?
What results did you get at firing?
Experience of Reloading of cartridge 7.62x39 with bullets 150 grain, 168 grain and 180 is grain results?
Thanks to everybody for an answer.
05 October 2009, 00:56
jeffeossoi have to ask, what are you going to be shooting them in?
a semi or a bolt
a .308 barrel or a .311 ..
it MATTERS alot .. a ruger, either factory mini30 or m77mkII, is a 308 barrel. Load 120gr .308 bullets in them, and you will have an accurate shooter ...
those in an ak or sks, will spray and keyhole ...
use .311 for the ak/sks .. or .312 ..
remember, this is the base case for the PPC, and is VERY accurate when the proper bullets are used in a bolt gun.
i don't remember if the century arms are .308 or .311 ... might be a case by case basis.
jeffe
05 October 2009, 20:35
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
i have to ask, what are you going to be shooting them in?
a semi or a bolt
a .308 barrel or a .311 ..
it MATTERS alot .. a ruger, either factory mini30 or m77mkII, is a 308 barrel. Load 120gr .308 bullets in them, and you will have an accurate shooter ...
those in an ak or sks, will spray and keyhole ...
use .311 for the ak/sks .. or .312 ..
remember, this is the base case for the PPC, and is VERY accurate when the proper bullets are used in a bolt gun.
i don't remember if the century arms are .308 or .311 ... might be a case by case basis.
jeffe
.311 - .312 SKS.
Thank you for an answer.
06 October 2009, 10:52
KrochusI disagree on almost your entire assesment jeffeosso
quote:
. a ruger, either factory mini30 or m77mkII, is a 308 barrel. Load 120gr .308 bullets in them, and you will have an accurate shooter ...
Wrong in most cases, Ive researched this a great deal and apparently the very first run of Ruger Mini30's had .308 bores. Anything made after 1994 or so has the "proper" .310" barrel. Same goes for the m77
quote:
those in an ak or sks, will spray and keyhole ...
ANY bullet in a AK will "spray" in case you haven't noticed. I have tested this extensively as well and I have yet to find a .310 bored rifle that WON'T shoot .308" bullets with 100% of the accuracy of the other diameter
back to the OP
I have shot 170g 30-30 and 174grain .303 bullets in my AR15 with it's .310 bore. With a charge of H335 that I won't divulge 2000fps is not a problem. 150 grainers motorvate out around 2140fps
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06 October 2009, 16:39
jeffeossoKrochus,
you are welcome to disagree or agree, as you please. My experience and opinion are in my post and yours are in yours. Its a fair exchange.
07 October 2009, 05:42
308SakoSorry copied this in from my excel sheet, basically velocity and SD followed by the number of shots in the string.
Warning, some of these loads were purely experimental and over pressure.!7.62x39
Interesting attempt to try an unusual application of this 1st powder
110 V-Max LiL Gun 18.0 gr IMI virgin F150 LPP 2.20" Sako 21" 2203 55 3
" " 19.0 gr " " " " 2311 16 3 better acc
" " 20.0 gr " " " " 2435 15 3 BEST Accuracy
" " 22.5 gr " Cci 350 2.250" " 2746 21 2 too HOT
" " 24.0 gr " Cci 350 2.250" AR ? 2512 stuck in chamber NEVER START AT THE TOP
110 V-Max AA 1680 26.2 gr IMI virgin F 210 M 2.20" Sako 21" 2415 8 5 marked as acc
" " " " " " Colt 16" 2256 17 F T F 5 " " Low Pressure?
110 V-Max AA 1680 27.4 gr IMI virgin F 210 M 2.20" Sako 21" 2479 14 5 22.0 Redd
" " " " " " Colt 16" 2388 47 N G 3 or gas sys mis match
110 V-Max V V 130 27.0 gr 1X IMI Cci 350 2.240" Colt 16" 2267 11 CWS 5 cycle well
" " " " " " Sako 21" 2357 12 5
125 gr JSP Remington n/a R-P R 7 1/2 ?? Sako 21" 2148 55 ? 3
" " " " " " " 2171 37 5
125 HP tnt Rel #7 25.0 gr IMI virgin Cci 350 2.250" Colt 16" 2154 15 2 FAIL to Eject
" " " " " " Sako 21" 2287 13 5 better results
125 HP tnt AA 1680 25.0 gr Win Cci 200 2.25" Colt 16" 2261 36 10 Load in
" " " " " " " 2258 19 10 Doesn't the
" " " " " " " 2243 38 10 Shoot Colt
" " 26.0 gr Win " " " 2362 22 12 shot poorly
125 HP tnt AA 1680 25.5 gr Win Cci 200 2.25 Colt 16" 2177 114 iron sights 8
" " " " " " " 2188 88 5
" " " 1X Win Cci 200 2.245" " 2215 27 10 20.25 Redding
" " 25.8 gr R-P R7 1/2 2.237 " 2100 ?? ?? from notes ??
147 FMJ AA 1680 23.8 gr IMI Cci 200 2.245" Colt 16" 2104 15 10 excellent
150 Nos BT AA 1680 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2 2.262 Colt 16" 2195 23 5
155 SMK 1 V V 130 24.5 gr IMI virgin Cci 350 2.245 Sako 21" 2124 63 ? one round low vel
155 SMK 1 V V 130 24.5 gr IMI Cci 350 2.245" Colt 16" 1948 17 C W S 3
" " 24.8 gr R-P F205M " " 2003 14 " 5 shot well
" " " IMI F210M " " 2001 19 " 5 "
" " 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2br 2.250" " 2031 33 " 5 "
" " " IMI F210M " " 2044 7 " 10 " neck sized only
155 SMK 1 AA 1680 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2br 2.252" Colt 16" 2110 7 C W S 5 "
" " " IMI F210M " " 2108 12 " 10 " neck sized only
175 SMK V V 130 23.5 gr IMI F210M 2.250" Colt 16" 1892 4 " 5 "
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07 October 2009, 09:42
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by 308Sako:
Sorry copied this in from my excel sheet, basically velocity and SD followed by the number of shots in the string.
Warning, some of these loads were purely experimental and over pressure.!
7.62x39
Interesting attempt to try an unusual application of this 1st powder
110 V-Max LiL Gun 18.0 gr IMI virgin F150 LPP 2.20" Sako 21" 2203 55 3
" " 19.0 gr " " " " 2311 16 3 better acc
" " 20.0 gr " " " " 2435 15 3 BEST Accuracy
" " 22.5 gr " Cci 350 2.250" " 2746 21 2 too HOT
" " 24.0 gr " Cci 350 2.250" AR ? 2512 stuck in chamber NEVER START AT THE TOP
110 V-Max AA 1680 26.2 gr IMI virgin F 210 M 2.20" Sako 21" 2415 8 5 marked as acc
" " " " " " Colt 16" 2256 17 F T F 5 " " Low Pressure?
110 V-Max AA 1680 27.4 gr IMI virgin F 210 M 2.20" Sako 21" 2479 14 5 22.0 Redd
" " " " " " Colt 16" 2388 47 N G 3 or gas sys mis match
110 V-Max V V 130 27.0 gr 1X IMI Cci 350 2.240" Colt 16" 2267 11 CWS 5 cycle well
" " " " " " Sako 21" 2357 12 5
125 gr JSP Remington n/a R-P R 7 1/2 ?? Sako 21" 2148 55 ? 3
" " " " " " " 2171 37 5
125 HP tnt Rel #7 25.0 gr IMI virgin Cci 350 2.250" Colt 16" 2154 15 2 FAIL to Eject
" " " " " " Sako 21" 2287 13 5 better results
125 HP tnt AA 1680 25.0 gr Win Cci 200 2.25" Colt 16" 2261 36 10 Load in
" " " " " " " 2258 19 10 Doesn't the
" " " " " " " 2243 38 10 Shoot Colt
" " 26.0 gr Win " " " 2362 22 12 shot poorly
125 HP tnt AA 1680 25.5 gr Win Cci 200 2.25 Colt 16" 2177 114 iron sights 8
" " " " " " " 2188 88 5
" " " 1X Win Cci 200 2.245" " 2215 27 10 20.25 Redding
" " 25.8 gr R-P R7 1/2 2.237 " 2100 ?? ?? from notes ??
147 FMJ AA 1680 23.8 gr IMI Cci 200 2.245" Colt 16" 2104 15 10 excellent
150 Nos BT AA 1680 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2 2.262 Colt 16" 2195 23 5
155 SMK 1 V V 130 24.5 gr IMI virgin Cci 350 2.245 Sako 21" 2124 63 ? one round low vel
155 SMK 1 V V 130 24.5 gr IMI Cci 350 2.245" Colt 16" 1948 17 C W S 3
" " 24.8 gr R-P F205M " " 2003 14 " 5 shot well
" " " IMI F210M " " 2001 19 " 5 "
" " 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2br 2.250" " 2031 33 " 5 "
" " " IMI F210M " " 2044 7 " 10 " neck sized only
155 SMK 1 AA 1680 25.0 gr R-P R7 1/2br 2.252" Colt 16" 2110 7 C W S 5 "
" " " IMI F210M " " 2108 12 " 10 " neck sized only
175 SMK V V 130 23.5 gr IMI F210M 2.250" Colt 16" 1892 4 " 5 "
Oh!
It is a serious enough letup.
Many thanks to you.
08 October 2009, 20:24
K. W.Excuse me, but Vihtavuori N-120; suitable for small capacity rifle cases like 7,62x39.
Burning rate is near to Accurate 1680, IMR 4198 and Reloader 7.
08 October 2009, 21:06
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by K. W.:
Excuse me, but Vihtavuori N-120; suitable for small capacity rifle cases like 7,62x39.
Burning rate is near to Accurate 1680, IMR 4198 and Reloader 7.
OK. Thank you to you .
09 October 2009, 06:32
steve4102quote:
Originally posted by K. W.:
Excuse me, but Vihtavuori N-120; suitable for small capacity rifle cases like 7,62x39.
Burning rate is near to Accurate 1680, IMR 4198 and Reloader 7.
Yes, in most instances, but in the case of My Ruger Mini-30, N-120 will just barely cycle the action, to fast for my rifle. I prefer N-130, deady accurate and excellent velocities.
09 October 2009, 14:06
KrochusIn both my AR15 and my bench gun n120 has been THE powder for 7.62x39 outperforming even aa1680.
Unlike the above poster's mini my AR has no cycling issues with this powder
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10 October 2009, 02:14
steve4102quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
In both my AR15 and my bench gun n120 has been THE powder for 7.62x39 outperforming even aa1680.
Unlike the above poster's mini my AR has no cycling issues with this powder
Hey Krochus, How many grains of 120 are you using behind 125gr bullets? Maybe I'm loading light.
10 October 2009, 08:46
KrochusI've shot the 27.3grn load but I tend to throttle back a tad to increase brass life
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12 October 2009, 22:16
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
http://www.lapua.com/fileadmin...ta/Rifle/7.62x39.jpgI've shot the 27.3grn load but I tend to throttle back a tad to increase brass life
12 October 2009, 23:31
Krochus278 yds with a 7.62x39
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13 October 2009, 12:13
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405210278 yds with a 7.62x39
Thank you,-it interestingly.
Do you use what optics and as fasten it? Question - whether it holds well and constantly "0"?
13 October 2009, 13:33
Krochusquote:
Originally posted by kaizer2007:
quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405210278 yds with a 7.62x39
Thank you,-it interestingly.
Do you use what optics and as fasten it? Question - whether it holds well and constantly "0"?
Sorry but I'm not sure I follow what you're saying?
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If you waste your time a talkin' to the people who don't listen
To the things that you are sayin' who do you thinks gonna hear
And if you should die explainin' how the thing they complain about
Or the things they could be changing who do you thinks gonna care
Waylon Jennings
13 October 2009, 18:18
kaizer2007quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
quote:
Originally posted by kaizer2007:
quote:
Originally posted by Krochus:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=405210278 yds with a 7.62x39
Thank you,-it interestingly.
Do you use what optics and as fasten it? Question - whether it holds well and constantly "0"?
Sorry but I'm not sure I follow what you're saying?
I did not pay regard to Your picture and thought that you had shot from SKS, - on it put question about an optics and its fastening on SKS and accordingly as an optics holds "0".