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Is it possible to buy one with muzzle brake.. | ||
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| one of us |
Huh? I thought that you could get Winchesters in 300 and 338 with the BOSS on them. I may be wrong. | |||
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It may be possible to buy a particular rifle with a muzzle brake, however it may not be possible to sell same. | |||
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| <wjb3> |
quote: I have an after market brake on my Weatherby .300 mag. (it's a Weahterby brake) and it really tamed the gun. It's also a removeable brake; you can take it off and place a thread protector in its place and you're back to bare-barrel, so I think it enhances the value of the gun. | ||
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Get the Vias if you are going to do it but be warned.....the sound level is unreal. hearing protection is absolutely not an option even if for one shot. I put one on my Ultra....very satisfied with recoil reduction but am not putting one on my new big-rig due to noise level. You can remove for hunting situation but poi will be different. | |||
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| <Don Krakenberger> |
Savidge makes their bolt action in 338 ultra mag with an adjustable factory brake. You can close it or open it. AND the gun is really priced right. From what I've seen in distributer magazines I'm guessing you should be able to walk out of a gun shop with one in your hands for under $500! SHIT--I have to sign off now before I start to get crazy ideas and get one on order! | ||
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| <Bill T> |
I have a Weatherby Accumark in .338-378 Weatherby Mag. and it came with the Accubrake standard. I'm surprised that Remington doesn't offer a break on the .338 Ultra, it would make it a lot more comfortable to shoot at the bench. It does increase blast, but it's worth it to put up with a little more noise rather than having the gun beat the living daylights out of you. Bill T. | ||
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| <Rust> |
Just had a Vais muzzle brake installed on my .338 RUM. Should have done that sooner. The Vais isn't as loud as some brakes, but they are all loud. Have to put one on my .300 RUM next. | ||
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| <dcan> |
Does anyone have a web site for Vais muzzle brake. Thanks | ||
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I am looking myself for a site selling the vias or vais;who is selling it;whats the cost; great forum for getting very useful information. | |||
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| <sure-shot> |
Here it is boys but be warned: there are new reports of hearing damage caused by muzzle brakes even though hearing protection is worn. No details, it was written by John Barsness in a recent Rifle issue I believe. Also there was a poster who made the same claims awhile back on this forum. I have one rifle with a removeable Vais but have not shot with it installed lately. You can contact: Vais Arms, Inc. Hope this helps, | ||
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Hearing damage caused by muzzle brake I agree with that.I dont mind the recoil;what I really mind its not to be hit in the face with the scope;Leupold sells a extended eye relief scope 2.5-8X32mm with 14 inches of eye relief;has someone has any information concerning this scope.. | |||
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| <Bill T> |
There has been a lot written about "alleged" hearing damage associated with braked guns. I have shot several thousand rounds from large caliber braked guns over the years without any problems. This, like many things in life, requires common sense. If one wears tight fitting foam plugs with GOOD headphones, you won't encounter any problems. If this combination is good enough for Battleship gun crews, it should work as well for the local range. A lot has been said about "range etiquette" and muzzle brakes. Muzzle brakes are here to stay, and it's up to the individual to provide his own protection if he finds the noise level undesireable. I have shot rifles with brakes, and have been next to shooters with brakes, as well as being behind shooters with brakes and I really don't see what all the contraversey is about other than some shooters feeling that "their space" has been invaded. Lets face it, we are talking about rifle ranges here, not Librarys. Bill T. | ||
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| <No Fear in Accuracy> |
Lets face it, we are talking about rifle ranges here, not Librarys.
I support muzzle brake to be installed especially in big bore. | ||
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| <Sniper> |
Aquavit you can get the BOSS on the 300 Win Mag and the 338 Win Mag but you cannot get it on the Ultra Mag series of rifles. | ||
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Braked or unbraked, rifle booms will damage your hearing, I give you my promise on that, my hearing went to hell before I ever saw a brake and just from field shooting, so don't kid yourself, its a trade off you have to live with or take up golf..... I have built many rifles and installed brakes on them that are removable and none of them change point of impact with or without the brake...I have seen some factory rifles change POI under these circumstances, don't ask me why..I have never addressed the problem because I never had to deal with it. ------------------ | |||
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| <Steve in MI> |
I have a 300 RUM that is getting a brake . I have done a large amount of research and as far as efficency goes the hands down winner seems to be the J.P. ENT brake. ( as well as ugly) But having 7 pins put into my right shoulder I enjoy shooting big bores with out the punishment. | ||
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| <bigcountry> |
Never heard of the JP Ent brake. Any links to look at. I was going to send mine to Gentry's. | ||
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Remington is using a muzzle break on the 7mm STW and the .300 Winchester;is it a fine muzzle break.Some of you told me to stay away from the Boss,the VAIS seems to be the good choice...... | |||
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I have the BOSS on my Model 70 338 Win Mag and it works great, just as advertized. I shot 10 different factory rounds of various weights and styles all under 1" groups with very little effort. Now that I'm handloading, It's less of a benifit, but I believe it will allow me to dictate the accurate load rather than letting the rifle decide. And I don't think it's ugly either. It does work, just exactly like they say. Switching from the brake to the conventional recoil system, the is no change in POP either, at least with my gun. ------------------ | |||
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Boss ;I will if this brake perform well to put one on a .338 RUM; you are talking about a .338 Winchester; I wonder if is it the same with the .338 RUM.... | |||
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I don't know if they sell the BOSS as an aftermarket brake. I have read where there is a similar piece that can be added to other rifle calibers, don't know how they work. Your right, mine is a 338 winchester and I've found I don't need the brake to shoot the rifle accurately or confortably, it does work well. I'm glad my Model 70 has it. ------------------ | |||
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I have a Browning A Bolt in 375 with a Boss and a Savage116SE in 458 Mag with there on/off Brake. I really don't see much difference in noise with or without Brake, they definitely reduce felt recoil and for most shooters should reduce the ill effects of flinching. The brakes however increase turbulence in front of the gun which would not happen with a gun without it. When sighting in anyone who does not wear ear protection is asking for hearing problems if not immediately but surely in latter life as ear damage for the most part is accumulative. In hunting conditions you generally don't shoot that much maybe one or two shots and the environment is generally more favorable for absorption and dissipation of the noise [This message has been edited by raamw (edited 11-01-2001).] | |||
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| <Steve in MI> |
I have a BOSS on a Browning 7 MAG and it does help to tune loads. The draw back is if you shoot much at the range check it often to see if it is tight. I have heard that some have lost the brake all together?? They may have had it way out on the end of the threads or something ?? dont know. But I will say that any one that thinks that you can shoot a rifle with a brake without hearing protection even once with out damage is wrong. I have since removed mine for hunting, I have shot it and my left ear will ring for several minutes after the shot. I think the brakes are great when you can wear ear protection but not in the woods. I have some loss of hearing in my left ear now for that reason. A few shots here and there and before you know if it is gone. I know where plugs and muffs when on the range with the brake. Good shooting, [This message has been edited by Steve in MI (edited 11-02-2001).] | ||
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I think one has a dilemma,first putting a muzzle break, the recoil is very noticiable and also the noise hearing problem still remains; getting some bruises not that bad,getting a loss of hearing,something to consider.I think the best way to go,is someone can handle the kick of the big bore; that will be the right choice.. | |||
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But not all is lost, guys! Like Ray said, all gun blasts regardless of "brake" or not, will damage your hearing. Muzzle brakes redirect most of the noise (not all) all the way around the muzzle to the sides. The rest goes straight out the muzzle. It means that bystanders to each "side" of the brake (or above and below the brake) will probably hear the noise to a greater than normal level. Keep that in mind for a moment...If you shoot the same braked rifle in a canyon, the "side" noise will hit the canyon walls, and come straight to your ears. Lets say that I shoot my braked rifle on a cat trail; I am shooting down the trail, but to my left there is a thick barrier of trees, and no trees to my right. The sound from the left side of the brake will reach the trees and come back at me pretty fast. How do I know this? By experience fellows! That was the first and last time I shot any braked rifle without ear plugs. I killed the moose, but I could not hear through my left ear for awhile. Since then I always wear foam ear plugs, the very soft ones that you roll between your fingers and then grow FAT and fill your ear canals. The only problem is that you must wait until you are in position to take the shot on game, before you insert them in your ears. If you are wearing the plugs and then have to move around to another spot, you won't be able to hear most of your own noises. This is a pain, specially when moving to a better shooting spot (been there, done that). This is what I do nowadays: I have a set of Peltor electronic ear muffs. These ear muffs allow you to hear your own noises (when you sneak around), but they are not rain proof. I also keep two sets of ear plugs, one in my front pocket, and the other in my pant's pockets. It takes time to get used to all these things, but if I can do it, you can. I bet someone will make rain-proof electronic ear muffs in the near future. Wear ear protection even when hunting. The "no pain no gain" thing does not apply when it comes to your hearing. Oh...Almost forgot: Always check the operation of any electronic ear muffs before you go out to hunt. Batteries don't last as much as they should sometimes, so it is not a bad idea to take extra ones. [This message has been edited by Ray, Alaska (edited 11-02-2001).] | |||
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Anyone of you has some information why Remington dont sell their .338 RUM without a muzzle brake,I wonder why;what I mean if they can sell the .338 RUM with a fine muzzle brake; they will probably sell more than without a brake, something I cannot understand..... | |||
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The 338 u;tra mag does benefit from a muzzle brake. Also cryo treatment to the barrel. Went from 3 shots in about and inch at 100 yds. To 5 shot 1 1/4" at 100 after cryo treatment. Also half the time to get copper fouling out. Without the brake on it whacked me preety good. Factory Remington 250 grain at advertised 2900 fps. | |||
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Wow!! 17 years ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Non; I think it best to start a new thread if you have a comment or question and don't try to bring back 17 year old pigs from the grave. Just my opinion. | |||
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| One of Us |
Yep, plus many original posters are long gone/banned. . | |||
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This thing just WON'T GO AWAY will it.  If yo don't want threads on the end of your barrel Witt Machines has a nice removable brake made specifically for barrel contours. A bit on the large size, looking more like a tank MB with more slots but it WORKS...interested???...check out the website. I have one for my 6.5-300 WBY...not needed for recoil control especially but it DOES keep the barrel down on the pads and the removable aspect is needed when cleaning to keep the pieces and parts out of the brake...and one on my T/C Encore 500 S&W Mag...now THAT one really DOES WORK on recoil mitigation. I have my own iteration MB(the size of and shape of a lemon with BIG slots) on a 7-08 16" XP-100...without it the pistol will jump almost over my head with a light hold...with it and the same hold the pistol just rolls over on it's right bi-pod leg while lifting the left leg ≈2"...this with 120 gr full house varmint loads I also use in my 7-08 rifle(exact same load). What a lot of detractors don't seem to understand is even on small targets the barrel stays put and keeps the target in view, not withstanding all the hoo-haw over keeping BOTH eyes open and other horse pucky. I've used MB on MANY 22 to 6 mm's...they work great. Doesn't matter tho'...WAY to many keyboard artists keeping the pot stirred and adding more and more garden variety flower/veggy food. Good Hunting and Merry Merry.    | |||
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