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.222 remington brass?
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Ok, so I am getting prepared to start loading up some rounds for my 788's in triple deuce. I have brass from remington, federal, frontier, and pmc. Is it okay to mix these different brands or am I asking for trouble.


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If you weighed them they could be all over the place. I would think your in the ideal situation for loadtesting to use different headstamps for different loads in case you get them mixed accidently.

Once you have a good load you could then try it in all your brass to check it shoots the same.
 
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Its always a good advice to seperate the brass into diffrent batches most commercial brass is fairly consistent with in there own brand.
most problems come from a lot of brass that is heavier and thicker creating higher pressures.
keep them seperated and the best advice is the old rule WHEN YOU CHANGE A COMPONENT REDUCE THE LOAD AND WORK BACK UP.

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i dunno - when i was shooting competition i'd go through all the hoops. once i gave than up in favor of blasting crats, PD's etc. i don't pay much attention to mixed cases anymore. I know that i can improve groups etc. but if i have a rifle shooting 1/2" groups, why do i want all the xtra work & fuss when i'd rather be shooting than loading
 
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Work up a moderate load with the heaviest brand of brass and use it in all of them.
 
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Soooo... after reading all your replies, thanks btw. I think I will focus on the remington brand brass. As far as I know it is the only brand out of the bunch that I can purchase.

Edit: I just found PMC brass on Grafs and from the look of it, it is the only brass anyone has in stock. Well that is unless you want to pay out the ass for Norma.


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My local Sportsman's Warehouse has both Remington and Winchester brass in .222. If the quantities of mixed brass that have are small you might just use them for mild loads or stash them for later.
If you are serious about working up loads that are near maximum and want to be able to repeat them use new factory brass that is easy to get.
 
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I've had the best case life with Winchester .222 brass, at least since Federal stopped selling their .222 nickel match brass.

On ground squirrel shoots I have a mixture of brass that all gets the same load and shoots the same no matter the brand of case.
 
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Here are some approximate case weights. I have not tried mixing them to see the result, but if you have poor results it will be another variable to remove. I would sort them by brand and if you can, use only one brand. Good luck, Peter.

Empty case weights:
88.0 Frontier
88.4 R-P
91.7 SuperX
93.5 WW Super
93.8 Herters
93.8 FC
 
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I know this is not what George originally looked for (.222 Rem brass at low cost), but we should perhaps not forget what might be the best .222 brass in current production: RWS!

Sadly, it is not cheap. But with Lapua having stopped making .222 Rem brass (how could they?? Mad), the RWS brass is the best I have run into.

http://www.huntingtons.com/cases_rws.html

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If you're plinking or shooting sage rats, I like Ireland's idea. Work up your load using the heaviest brass and use it for all the brass.
 
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GrosVentreGeorge, Pick the brand that you think you will go with and let me know. If it is a brand other than Winchester I can look and see what I have and send them to you. I use Winchester so I don't want to part with those, but any of the others that I have are yours. I may not have a lot, but combined with what you already have it will bet you going. Good luck, Peter.
 
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PeterS, that is truly awesome of you man. I am going with the Remington. I already have several hundred of them and might be able it will be easy to pick up at Sportsman's or Capital if they ever get it in. I would also be interested in PMC if you have any. I can still grab that up from Graf's and Sons.

Sending PM for address and other details that might need to be worked out now.


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Originally posted by mho:
I know this is not what George originally looked for (.222 Rem brass at low cost), but we should perhaps not forget what might be the best .222 brass in current production: RWS!

Sadly, it is not cheap. But with Lapua having stopped making .222 Rem brass (how could they?? Mad), the RWS brass is the best I have run into.

http://www.huntingtons.com/cases_rws.html

- mike


Once shot RWS .222 brass is by far the most common type to be found on German shooting ranges...
 
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Originally posted by DUK:
Once shot RWS .222 brass is by far the most common type to be found on German shooting ranges...


Yes, I have an almost inexhaustible supply on my range as well. It is one the few advantages (shooting wise) of living in Central Europe... Smiler

I don't strictly need more of the .222 RWS brass, but I somehow can't leave it lying around on the range - call me a junkyard rat, if you must ...

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It also depends on your rifle...My 222 will shot eveything to the same POI as far as I know, I just shoot something different all the time on Chucks and Rabbits and I don't miss very often. Every time I check it I dont' have to make any adjustments. I have been told most 222s will do that??????


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