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I have never fired a big bore rifle. Only a 30-06 and a 12 gauge shotgun. I felt the 12 gauge was "worse" to fire, so Im wondering if there are some big bores that are comparable to this? Or maybe a bit more powerfull? The shotgun does not bother me at all!
 
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I can tell you I hate shooting my work shotgun. Its a rem 870 riot about 7lbs with mag slugs and buck it is really pain full.

I would much rather shoot my 338wm 300 win mag or my 416 taylor.

But then it is a matter of weight and stock design.

Shoot a light weight any thing in a bigger caliber and it is going to kick.
 
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My shotgun weights 7.3lbs, and not a problem.

Is it possible to get something from 375 and up, to match this?

My rifle would probably weigh 10-12lbs.
 
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Fire your shotty w/ a heavy goose load or buckshot. It's close to a .375h&h IMO.


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It´s hard to compare the recoil from a shotgun to a rifle.

I can shoot my 12ga and my 9.3x62 all day long but the my .375 kicks hard and fast.

I have a .416 with a very straight stock which helps deminish felt recoil. It might be that the .416 has more of a "push" than a "kick" to it -this is just my opinion.

Some people say that if you´re big in body then you can take more recoil -in my book it isn´t so. Myself I´m 194 cm and I weigh 110kgs, I have a friend who is about 170cm and weighs 70kgs.

He can stand any recoil when I start shying away after 10 shots from my .375.

If your friends have big bores try them. Maybe a friendly gun store owner will let you try some different guns?


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I shoot 12 ga. with slugs & 00 buck on occasion - I also shoot a 375 H&H and a 458 WM. My experience is that the rifles have MUCH more recoil than the scattergun. My shotty is a boom and a push - the rifles are a CRACK and slam - even with pachmayr pads.

All are doable I just think the rifles are harder kickers.

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If you can handle 2 Oz full velocity Turkey loads from a light weight Pump or Single shot 12 ga, you can handle might near anything any other man would shoot IMO. I dread patterning my Light Weight Turkey gun w/ full power loads but, it's a delight to carry on those long spring strolls and when shooting a Tom you never feel it.

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Very mixed experiences here.
 
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I don't shoot heavy shotgun loads other than 3" steel loads for waterfowl and I don't think those too bad. My CZ550 .375 H&H has less perceived recoil than my 1895 Marlin .45-70 (with warm loads). The .375 rifle is heavy and produces what I consider a "big push" which isn't painful. The .45-70 weighs less and has more "punch" if shooting warm loads.


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Yes, the total energy of the recoil of a heavy shotgun load can be comparable to some of the medium bore dangerous game rifles. However, there may be some difference in felt recoil due to the way the recoil is applied. This is affected by the shape of the stock, the weight of the gun, and the muzzle velocity of the bullet/shot charge, which for a shotgun is close to 1,000 FPS lowwer than for a rifle. This changes the amount of time over which the recoil is applied to your shoulder, and hence, how it "feels".


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Some people say that if you´re big in body then you can take more recoil -in my book it isn´t so. Myself I´m 194 cm and I weigh 110kgs, I have a friend who is about 170cm and weighs 70kgs.

He can stand any recoil when I start shying away after 10 shots from my .375.


True! Just take a look at Elmer Keith! He wasn't a big fellow, but seemed totally immune to the effects of recoil. On the other hand, Sir Samuel (Pasha) Baker was a huge guy, and was nearly killed by years of firing his 2-bore elephant rifle!

According to my recoil calculator, in a 9-pound gun, a load of 2 oz of shot propelled at 1300 FPS MV using 50 grains of powder would produce 66 foot-pounds of recoil. A 400-grain bullet in a 9-pound gun, MV 2400 FPS from 100 grains of powder (.416 Rigby), would only be 72 Ft/Lb.


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According to my recoil calculator, in a 9-pound gun, a load of 2 oz of shot propelled at 1300 FPS MV using 50 grains of powder would produce 66 foot-pounds of recoil. A 400-grain bullet in a 9-pound gun, MV 2400 FPS from 100 grains of powder (.416 Rigby), would only be 72 Ft/Lb.



I bet in the 6 to 7 lb shotguns it will calculate pretty close to the DG loads.

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