Since I can't get through on e-mail, I'll ask on the open forum. What load you gonna take your moose and boo with? You still foolin' with the Ultra Mag?

I'm taking my old stand-by 300 Winnie. Looks like my custom WSM is not going to get here in time. Gee, after all, delivery was just promised in February, so it's only six months late! Everybody knows that custom guns run up to a year later than the date promised, don't they?

In the old 300, I'll be shooting my standard, un-aweinspiring, 75-grains of H 4831 SC pushing a 180-grain Grand Slam at 2970 fps. This has been pretty much a standard load for the 300 Win. Mag. for years and remains a pretty good load. Some folks think the 180 is a little light for moose, but moose are not that tough and since it's a one-gun hunt, I need to shoot the same bullet that I'll be using on caribou.

Try to e-mail me again and see if it goes through. We need to get in touch, even if it's by phone, before we "take off to the great white north." I've got some answers to your questions on what we might face on out trip, especially concerning getting your rifle and reloads into country.

GA, will be taking 200Gr. A-Frames with 85gr of Re25. Also take my most accurate 180Gr Nosler Partition and 94.5g of H1000 with Fed 215M. I really want to see how those A-Frames perform on a big animal. What about you?

GA, you sure do like those GS. Did your load change any when they changed the grand slams recently. I got some but never had time to work on a load too much.

Bigcountry,

I shoot the Grand Slams because they are the only premium bullets that shoot good, REALLY good, in my rifle. And so far, on the terminal end, they have yet to let me down. However, their BC sucks, so you are really limited to about 300 yards, which is plenty in most hunting situations.

Like you, I am expemimenting with the gold-plated Swift A-Frames (must be gold-plated, have you seen what they cost?) I just loaded 20, 180-grain rounds with the same charge as the Grand Slams. I'll be taking them to the range later this week.

End of Experiment!

I shot 100 and 200-yard groups with both 180-grain Grand Slams and 180-grain A-Frames yesterday. Results:

Grand Slams -- Two groups at 100 yards; one group (three shots), 7/8-inch, the other (five shots), 1-inch even. Two groups at 200 yards; one group (three shots), 1 5/8, the other 2 1/8.

Swift A-Frames -- Two groups at 100 yards; one group (three shots) 2 3/4 inches, the other, (three shots) 4 inches. Two groups at 200 yards; one group (three shots), 8 inches, the other (three shots), 10 inches.

Both loads (75 grains of H 4831 SC) moved the bullet at 2960 fps.

Maybe I could play around with seating depth, powder and increased velocity (don't want less than 2950, and I'm already at the max published load). But I don't have the time to start over.

Bottom line is 180-grain Grand Slams will just have to do.

Man, thats some rough groups for that expensive ammo. I had a little better experience out of the A-Frames. 1.5" groups at 100 yards with Re25. Not as good as my 200gr Nosler PT.

You know for that bullet, maybe a slower powder is the ticket. Re22 or H1000. But hey, if the grand slams are doing it for you. Why pay twice as much. GA, ever retrieve a GS from that elk last year?

GAHUNTER,

It sounds like you have plenty of gun for a moose to me, I'd like to know who says a 300WM is 'light' for moose?
The top 2 cartridges for moose here in Maine are the 30-06 & 308 every year.

Barry

No one said the 300 Win. Mag. is light for moose. Only that the 180-grain bullet is a little light, in the opinion of some folks. Indeed, it seems that I see more folks shooting 200s for moose than 180s.

Gee you guy's make me feel real bad, im go'n to north western ontario for moose, with a 308, 165 gr.oh well thing's will be better when i get my 300 ultra for next year. good luck in newfoudland guy's. Rick.

Man, I wouldn't hesitate to take a 308 for moose. I just need to take blood with this rifle. It never has. If I don't get my 300RUM back from the smith in time, I will be taking my 270Win.

The 300 Mag is in my view the very best game getting cartridge you can use. Moose are energy absorbing giants and will show little or no reaction when hit by any .308 diameter bullet regardless of bullet weight. My bullet of choice is the 165 grain PSP bullet. Since your hunting Moose and caribou you may get a long shot at your caribou and need a flat shooting bullet. The 165 grain bullet shoots flatter and maintains good energy out to 400 yards. Moose tend to be in heavy cover and shots are around 100 yards or less. The 165 grain bullet is almost equal to the 180 grain in SD+BC. The key to harvesting any game animal is shot placement. The broad side heart lung shot will anchor any Moose or Caribou. Caribou are very easy to put on the ground at any practical hunting ranges. A 77.5 grain charge of Rel-22 driving the 165 rgain bullet at close to 3200 fps from a 300 Win. Mag. ,is one devastating big game getting combination.