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20 May 2006, 18:00
wildboar
"Well made" Winchester brass
Hi, I have just received 100 unprimed Winchester cases; please, take a look to these flash holes and to the pompous Winchester promise Roll Eyes . As you can see, there are 3 different diameters: regular, small oval and large oval Mad, ratio is about 1/3 of each. Did you have a similar problem? What is your opinion and what would you do? Thanks.
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20 May 2006, 18:35
LBGuy
if you are a competetive bench rest shooter, you might be concerned. if you are a hunter, i wouldn't give it a second thought. jmo.
20 May 2006, 19:45
greghud
you sure you didnt order a bag of mixed lollies?
the one on the 3rd row 2nd in looks like you could climb in.
at least they look shiney???
i would be interested as to the case lenth if it is the same, also if they are round or oliptical/ out of square. i was lenth sizing a batch of winchester in .308 and found about 1/3 of them would spin as if out of balance the head was not square to the case. didnot see this on any of the other brass as i re sized them an i rechecked the ones out of square and they were the same so not the tool. with oval flash holes maby thats why there out of square.
i would send them back if we keep complaining about this stuff maby they will pick up there act
all the best greg
20 May 2006, 20:55
Ol` Joe
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20 May 2006, 21:44
Jay Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by LBGuy:
If you are a competetive bench rest shooter, you might be concerned. if you are a hunter, i wouldn't give it a second thought. jmo.


Well said and right on the mark.
20 May 2006, 22:12
iwzbeeman
It does boil down to: It doesn't take a custom rifle capable of .25" accuracy, a $1000 scope, and ammo crafted by elves under a hollow log to kill a deer or elk or bear or moose.
20 May 2006, 22:36
Paul B
The only things I do to new brass are inspect, run the necks over a Lyman "M" die to insure they are round, trim to the "trim to" length and uniform the flash holes.
The only reason I inspect is I once bought 500 .358 Winchester cases and 6 of them were .356 Winchester cases headstamped .358 Win. pissers Go figure.
Paul B.
21 May 2006, 00:10
sccm1
My last New Winchester Brass in 44mag looked ok and Had 100 rounds prepped, primered and ready to load then when I went to load had 3 new cases that the primers fell out of primer pocket, tried to put another primer in those 3 and it did it again, primer pockets on those 3 cases were to big, wondered what could happen if I would have shot with primer that loose?

For most part though, don't have many problems with the winchester, seems to be easiest to get a hold of locally.
21 May 2006, 01:20
243winxb
i have seen the same in Remington brass.
21 May 2006, 09:29
R Flowers
Well, I have to admit you seem to have gotten a rather poor batch of brass.

Those with the enlarged primer flash holes I would discard and figure I just got screwed.

Those with off center flash holes will be of no problem. I did a test once of .223 Remington brass that had off center flash holes and they shot better than the ones with nicely centered flash holes, go figure!!

Just for interest, I have loaded a bunch of new Winchester cases this week for the 270 WSM and the 300 WSM and have found no such problems. I have loaded 50 of the 270WSM and 150 of the 300 WSM this week and all the new Winchester cases were of first class quality. (Just trued the necks up a little, chamfered the mouths and loaded them up.)

You can find problems with any brand of cases. I once bought a bag of Winchester 338 Win Mag cases that had a 7mm Rem Mag case in it. Not only was it the wrong caliber, it had NO flash hole at all! The primer pocket was there, but no flash hole.

I once opened a new batch of 100 Remington 7mm BR cases that had four cases in it that would not hold a primer. Put a primer in and it would just fall back out. Bummer!


R Flowers
21 May 2006, 10:38
Pumpkinheaver
I would use all of them and quit worrying about it.


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21 May 2006, 14:50
wildboar
....Ok, I keep the cases; I will try to sort them by flash hole dimension.