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Asking AR members for the current status of Primers supplies in the USA. Do they remain difficult to impossible to obtain currently or are supplies coming back on stream ? Wondering how your situation compares with our here in New Zealand. Here, primers have been, at best, very short for quite some time now. Some guys wanting to offload unwanted primers are offering them up piecemeal on our main online trading site and many times desperate buyers are bidding up to eye watering prices. Factory ammo supplies are so so but with inflation pushing up prices there some shooters are wanting to start handloading only to find primers pretty much non existent. I think the last actual primers shipment was a few Fiocchi brand which sold out rapidly. Supposedly there was a shipment of RWS primers due here before now which online talk says has been delayed from shipping due to Beratta's buyout of the Ruag Group ( ? ). Last I heard about Federal, my preferred primer, was that primers should land here late this year. But, who knows ... ? I have tried to help a little by giving away a few of my primers to good friends but am reluctant to go further in case primers shipments don't arrive here for another year or so. The situation here is pretty dire and without certainty as to when things will improve. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | ||
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I've found that a fair number of brands are available here so we can get LP, SP, LR, SR. The price seems to be fairly stable ranging somewhere between $80 - $100 per k, depending on brand, type and dealer. CLARIFICATION 7/12/23: I wrote that a "fair number of brands are available here." When I used the word "here" I meant "here" as in the US. Midway, Bruno and other on-line outlets seem pretty well supplied. | |||
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I have seen small lots of primers arriving locally from time to time and they go fast. Mostly small pistol and small rifle, some large pistol. Large rifle primers continue to be the most sought after and pretty much non-existent in local sporting goods stores. $80.00 - $100 per 1000 is about right. I see it as anti-gun legislation without the legislation. When nothing has even arrived for a couple years, that is not a demand problem, that is a supply problem. And I am convinced that the Government is at the root of the cause. Just my .02 c. Part of my solution has been to bolster my stock of what is available and shoot more small rifle. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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That may be so, WH, but I see the Ukraine war as the main likelihood. I think we would have heard if the Government was suppressing supply to civilians. They could do it I suppose but why bother - of all gun users, reloaders are least likely to commit murders. Buyers of Saturday-night specials probably don't reload and mass murderers can't find enough spent cases from their assault rifles. Also, if they did reload rather than waste their days on shoot'em-up video games, they might rethink their plans. I have heard there is a shortage of some rare metal used in making primers at the moment. | |||
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The thing is, the same thing happened under Obamas rule with no Ukraine war. For 4 years in between, there was no primer shortage. Personally I think the psyco Commiecrats are hoarding stockpiles (or selling it for their own profit to shady Nations) and paying suppliers more than they can get from us, with our money! That would explain why primer manufacturers are so tight lipped about the REAL problem. At this point it is obvious that they have been lying to us about people like you and me buying more than they can make. That's just my .02 cents. Ill remove the tin foil hat now.  AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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We are seeing a decent supply of primers in most of the local shops here in central North Carolina. I recently bought 5,000 Win 209's for shotgun shells. I had stocked up on rifle and pistol primers pre-Obiden. Prices are still running about $80-$100 per thousand, but now most will let you buy 1,000 instead of just a couple hundred at a time. | |||
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Sambarman338: Please don't goad a dedicated conspiracy theorist with accurate information. Putting facts in front of him is like pouring water on an oil fire. Of course, I only recently exhausted my primer supply hoarded in anticipation of the 1968 GCA -- which never impacted the supply of primers, or anything else, for that matter. When primers dropped to $20/1000 after the "Obama scare" subsided I bought enough to take an ample supply to the grave with me. Widows like mine will be giving these $100 cartons of primers away for pennies on the dollar in garage sales eventutally. | |||
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Thanks Stonecreek, the problem with our modern world is that the Internet has a tendency to be an echochamber, reassuring us of whatever we think we know. We are having trouble getting primers of any kind here lately but the only ones I've seen have been American, not RWS or Vihtavuori, let alone Russian ones. We have an additional problem in that only certain ships are allowed to carry explosives and powders, and some states have laws limiting transportation of such things through them. Fortunately, a range of powders sold in the US by Hodgdon are made nearby and easy to get but I hear some numbers applicable to military small arms can be a problem. | |||
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Thanks for the info guys. If supplies are improving in the USA, and it sounds like a trickle rather than torrents there, it will eventually here too. But our small market is usually the last anyone worries about so I suspect we may have to struggle along for some time yet. Sambar, every time I manage to pick up a bit AR branded powder I thank God for ADI industries and their near proximity to our shores. It seems they do keep NZ in mind when production runs and we seem to receive the odd shipment. Usually, powder lands here and sells rapidly and we're left waiting for arrival of the next shipment. To us ADI has been a saviour. Most of the other brands have been very hard to find. But having said that I see that supplies are increasing, but ever so slowly. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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Good News. My local sportsmans whse finally got a shipment from CCI, I just got a brick of 250 LRM primers for $61.00 + tax. They have been selling small rifle only and a limit of 200 per customer. This is the first time Ive seen any LR primers at all (other than from individuals) in over 2 years. Keep an eye out ya'll. I hope this means a light at the end of the tunnel. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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That does sound encouraging. Hopefully a sign of a continuing trend. It's past time we saw some normality in primer supplies. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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there are none in our local hunting / sporting good stores where imoat, i see them on line somewhere between $0.10 t0 $0.15 cents per primer. most are $100.00 a brick.. shipping + haz mat = $155.00 per 1000 | |||
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When ideology turns Deep State BLUE. The deficit expands. The economy suffers. The populace complies w/ lock downs. The populace succumbs to a jab or 2 or 3. Wake UP Stand Up Yee who snoozes....looses!!! My 180K of Federal Gold Medal/Match primers($28USD/1000) are appreciating on a daily basis. The 400+ Lb of powder on location is appreciating daily also. | |||
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Talking to my LGS a few days ago. A ray of hope... They are expecting a small shipment of LR Primers in the next two or three weeks. A good possibility they are of USA manufacture. They are likely to pro-rata distribution to customers as a lot of guys have been waiting a while. I told them I will take whatever they can supply. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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The news I've been waiting for. There's already been a recent, very small shipment of European primers ( brand ? ) that sold out the same day they were announced. I'm more interested in these USA made primers anyway. I've put my pre-order in for some LR primers. Also want to try some magnum primers which are due here 2024 sometime. The indicated price is a bit hefty. Hoping prices might ease if supplies improve.  . Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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Small rifle primers are now available in bricks at my local outlet. Have been for a couple weeks. They have CCI, Fiocci, and a few Remington. No LR primers though, and they average almost $100.00 per brick retail now.  AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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