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Time saving tools
16 March 2005, 07:52
elkhunterTime saving tools
I am looking for ways to increase the efficiency of my reloading. I am not ready to step up to a progressive system yet, but am looking to get some equipment to speed up case trimming, chamfering, deburring, and primer pocket cleaning, etc... Any ideas will be appreciated. What the best investment for $100 (I currently have the RCBS Rock Chucker reloading kit and hand priming tool).
Has anyone used the Lee case trimmer in a drill? This system seems a little "mickey mouse" to me from the photos. Does it work? Does it cut the case necks square?
16 March 2005, 08:04
Cal SibleyI saved quite a bit of time when I started using a case tumbler to clean my brass. I formerly did it in a drill using brasso. It gave me very clean cases but took forever. An electric screwdriver can save you a good bit of time in your case prep. It'll help you with case trimming, and case neck deburring. Caution, don't using a regular drill for this. It's much too fast. That's about all I've done to speed up the process. I load mainly for accuracy at the range, and some things you don't really want to speed up. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
Cal Sibley
16 March 2005, 09:36
ShopCartRacingI have not used one, but the RCBS Case Prep Center is said to be really time saving.
It is automated chamfering, deburring, and inside the case neck brush.
I like to use the Forster Graphiter which deposits really fine graphite on the inside of the case neck.
-Spencer
16 March 2005, 09:44
woodsThe best tool I have. Get one of these
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=515804and one of these
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=136199and one of these in each caliber
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=930066Mount the Zip Trim on a piece of 2x4 and put it in your vise. It will take all the guess work out of trimming and trim each case to the exact same length. It trims square with no big flat edges on the neck like a regular trimmer so its easy to chamfer.
Get some 00 steel wool and you can clean the case at the same time and make them shine like a new penny.
Great stuff!!

and cheap.
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16 March 2005, 18:48
elkhunterI was thinking of buying that exact setup. Do you have any problems with cases not being cut square due to inconsistant flash holes etc...
Is there a better way to charge cases? My RCBS powder measure works, but I have to be very exact with my throw or I get a variation in charge weight. It also takes long time to dial it in to get it to throw the correct charge.
16 March 2005, 19:35
ShopCartRacingIf you don't have the UPM Micro Adjuster, then you should.
It make measuring and consistency that much easier to do.
I have had customers buy the ZipTrim, and many of them have liked it.
-Spencer
16 March 2005, 20:03
smalstufYou must get a Quick Measure it will reduce your reloading time by 80%
Get it from
www.quick-measure.com16 March 2005, 20:11
woodsquote:
Originally posted by elkhunter:
I was thinking of buying that exact setup. Do you have any problems with cases not being cut square due to inconsistant flash holes etc...
Is there a better way to charge cases? My RCBS powder measure works, but I have to be very exact with my throw or I get a variation in charge weight. It also takes long time to dial it in to get it to throw the correct charge.
The Zip Trim and case length gauge actually
insure that your neck will be cut square because the case length gauge is a rod that will fit through the neck snugly and keep the cutter at an exact 90 degrees.
Can't help you with powder throws, trickle charge each and every case.
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There are those who would misteach us that to stick in a rut is consistency - and a virtue, and that to climb out of the rut is inconsistency - and a vice.
- Mark Twain |
Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.
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Also, for saving time a spray lube is the fastest way to lube cases. When loading singly I have taken a liking to Imperial sizing wax, but for the Dillon a spray lube is the only way to go.
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16 March 2005, 21:13
Jim in IdahoTime saving tools...
Um, factory ammo?
Hey, quit throwing those spent primers at me!

Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery!
Hit the target, all else is twaddle.
16 March 2005, 22:20
MarkLDon't know about the Zip-trim, but do like the like the Lee case trimming system. I use it with a cordless drill/driver.
16 March 2005, 22:24
elkhunterWhich spray lube do you use? I quit using it because it took significantly more effort on the press handle to size cases. I can't remember which brand I was using.
16 March 2005, 22:38
elkhunterWhat makes the zip trim superior to using the Lee trimmer and a cordless drill? Can you chamfer and deburr with it?
17 March 2005, 00:42
Bill McI use the Lee Case Trimmer with a varible speed drill. I tried the electric screw driver and it just didn't cut it.
Back to the still.
Spelling, I don't need no stinkin spelling
The older I get, the better I was.
17 March 2005, 01:22
phurley5I could not do my reloading without my Lyman case prep tool, my Lyman Universal case trimming tool hooked up to a drill, or my three Lyman automatic powder dispensors, or my priming die, all depending on an old RCBS Rock Chucker press. When you shoot 3000 plus rounds per year you need all the time saving tools available.

Good luck and good shooting.
phurley
17 March 2005, 01:56
woodsquote:
Originally posted by elkhunter:
What makes the zip trim superior to using the Lee trimmer and a cordless drill? Can you chamfer and deburr with it?
If you notice on these
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=930066there is a small point that goes through the primer hole and
then bears on the Zip Trim anvil. That is what spaces your trimmer at the appropriate distance from the case head. I don't know how you would do this with a drill without then measuring each case. Possibly the larger diameter rod would bear on the flash hole on the inside of the case, but that would not be consistent (we deburr flash holes, don't we?). If you used a drill and set the case head down on a hard surface so the case length gauge point would bear on a hard surface, it would work. Seems that would be a little awkward. The Zip Trim does all this for you. Hell, it's only $16.99. Then you hold the steel wool to the case, pull on the rope 3 -4 times and you don't have to wait hours on your tumbler (I'll sell you mine, haven't turned it on in months).
Yes, they do sell a chamfer tool for it
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=389104I even got one, but couldn't figure it out. Got the Universal 3 Jaw Chuck too, but don't use it.
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There are those who would misteach us that to stick in a rut is consistency - and a virtue, and that to climb out of the rut is inconsistency - and a vice.
- Mark Twain |
Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.
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17 March 2005, 02:32
steve4102How about the RCBS 3-Way Cutter? Anybody have any thoughts on this little tool?
17 March 2005, 03:40
PuncherI've had 3 Lee Zip-Trimmers and all 3 fell apart. I sent the first 2 back to Lee(at my expense) and ran the third through a trajectory/bouyancy test.
I bought the drill stud and the universal shell holder and use that now in my press. The cutter and gauge go in the press and I hold the case in the universal shell holder.
I made a handle of wood for the universal holder. That way, I can leave the press running and swap cases manually.
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17 March 2005, 04:05
Quarter RoundAfter the trimming is done my RCBS Tim Mate Case Prep Center with 5 motorized stations that accepts several different brass prep tools is a great time saver. Inside / outside chamfer, debur flash hole, uniform primer pocket, clean pocket, brush neck, dry lube neck, etc. It is a very useful tool that will accept many accessories.
17 March 2005, 23:00
MarkLWoods, I think you misunderstand how the Lee case trimmer works when used with a drill. The case is held by a "lock stud" mounted on the drill. Basically, the drill replaces the Zip Trim and works the same way.