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Anyone tired the Rainier Plated Pistol bullets?
25 January 2006, 03:03
ReloaderAnyone tired the Rainier Plated Pistol bullets?
I thought about trying the 158 grn JHPs in my 357. I've tried Wins, Sierras, and XTPs and the Wins seem to be the most accurate so far. Thought about trying plated bullets to see if they were any more accurate.
Any of you tried them?
Thanks,
Reloader
25 January 2006, 03:10
NBHunterI use them in my 1911 .45acp and get very good results. I load cast bullets for practice and use the plated for show. I've only tried a couple of real groups firing from elbows on knees but they group better (my load anyway) than half to most factory loads I've fed it.
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25 January 2006, 03:14
Steel SlingerI have used the 115gr RN in my 9mm. Can't give an honest opinion on exact accuracy, these are just my plinkin rounds. I can say that the last time I shot them, I went through 6 magazines rapid fire, rapid reload at 25 feet and tore a 6-8 inch hole in the paper. Also didn't have any problems with cycling. They did seem to copper foul a little worse than other, more expensive bullets though.
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25 January 2006, 05:10
tnekkccHot loads spin the skins off making for extra holes in the target.
25 January 2006, 06:02
fredj338I think you'll find a true jacketed bullet a bit more accurate, but for speed shooting, IDPA, etc. they work fine. If you are looking for an accurate hunting type bullet, stick w/ the RP, WW, etc.
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25 January 2006, 07:34
JMJ888Curiosity got the best of me so I picked up 500 of them from Cabelas for pretty cheap. Loaded up the 230Gr. HP in a Kimber 1911 under 7.8gr. of AA #5 and 10 shots went into one big hole rested at 15 yards. Cheap, reliable, and accurate...did I mention cheap. For everyday target loads I can't complain.
25 January 2006, 07:41
claybusterI bought a box to run through my .40sw,,,Does good!!,,very little fouling,,very accurate,,will order again,,Clay
25 January 2006, 14:26
7 MAG230 grain not bad . I have loaded my 1911 with
them quiet often .
25 January 2006, 16:02
Bobby TomekI don't care for them but have noticed that they do much better in a bore than has seen some use or one that has shallow rifling. WHen the bullets are engraved deeply, accuracy goes out the window.
Accuracy can be quite good -- not great, but more than acceptable.
Bobby
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25 January 2006, 16:45
poletaxI like Rainer in my 38/357's.
They are great for indoor ranges.No lead dust.
They aren't made for hunting or high speeds.
Berry's Manufacturing makes some great , all copper wrapped bullets too.
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25 January 2006, 19:38
[Smoke]I bought 2000 rds for my .45's(kimber, ruger, colt officers ser. 80). They feed fine in all but the colt. But, its very picky on what I feed it. The kimber and ruger will eat anything.
From what I've observed, they are very soft and can't take alot of bumping around. Dent or get marred very easily(accuracy probs). Good bullet for one thing...targets. And as mentioned in previous posts...cheap.
25 January 2006, 20:35
MarkLquote:
Originally posted by tnekkcc:
Hot loads spin the skins off making for extra holes in the target.
Yes, I have had this happen with my .357 magnum. I first noticed the problem when I found little rectangles of copper embedded in the front of my chronograph. They were about as wide as rifling grooves, and about as long as the distance from the base of the bullet to the crimp.
I therefore decided the problem was too much crimp. That is, a heavy crimp must cause the case mouth to cut through the thin copper plating. The rifling must either cut through or weaken the plating so it breaks through when fired.
A couple of times, I've been hit in the upper part of my arm with something when firing these bullets. I imagine those little curved rectangles could make a u-turn in the air. Not likely, but fire enough of them and the unlikely will eventually happen.
Once, I found the back half of one of those copper plated "jackets" sitting in the mouth of one of the chambers when I opened the cylinder.
I may be a slow learner, but I eventually get the message. I stopped using them in my .357.
I still use them in my .45 and see no reason to stop.
Lots of people use these bullets in revolvers without having problems. Just don't use a real heavy crimp or max loads. I recommend loading a couple of dummy rounds, then pulling the bullets to check if the crimp is breaking the skin.
26 January 2006, 00:10
butchlocwe've been shooting a ton of them (also berry's) with great results. the don't even lead up or cause problems in subguns
26 January 2006, 21:56
Smoker1What poletax said.
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Berry's Manufacturing makes some great , all copper wrapped bullets too
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27 January 2006, 18:28
Hot CoreHey Reloader, I'm glad you asked the question. I'd wondered about the economical Plated Bullets myself.
Good first-hand experience answers from everyone.
30 January 2006, 18:40
ReloaderYeah, Hot Core, it's nice to hear everyone's experience w/ these.
I don't think I'm going to try them in my 357 as I intend on loading w/ Lil' Gun and Blue Dot for some pretty speedy loads and it seems like the Jackets may not hold up in the barrel. The last Cast bullets I tried at descent speeds were a nightmare.
These bullets should work great in my 38 and my 40 S&W.
Reloader
30 January 2006, 18:56
squeezeI have shot Rainer's FP in my 9mm Browning,
and my .45 1911, for targets, and had excellent
accuracy. I tried Berry's, in the 1911, and clearly
the accuracy was not as good a Rainer bullets, in
this gun. Now I just buy Rainer Bullets for target
shooting.
Squeeze
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