23 April 2021, 17:35
Scott LeonardPushing shoulder Barnes Banded Solid
New Norma brass, annealed shoulder and neck.
Hornady and Aframes seat normal. BBS measures same but is pushing soft shoulder when seating.
Redding, .416 Rem Mag.
Light lube in neck worked but is there a better way?
Scott
23 April 2021, 19:26
4sixteen416 Rem having no issues with 416 Ruger & 416 Rigby sharper shoulders collapse easier if excessive bullet seating resistance. If mouth burred needs chamfering.
23 April 2021, 21:57
delloroquote:
Originally posted by Scott Leonard:
New Norma brass, annealed shoulder and neck.
Hornady and Aframes seat normal. BBS measures same but is pushing soft shoulder when seating.
Redding, .416 Rem Mag.
Light lube in neck worked but is there a better way?
Scott
Barnes TSX seat much more easily for me when I flare the case mouth a little bit. I follow up with enough Lee Factory Crimp to just get rid of the flare. This is in my puny .30 cal stuff and a .458 socom, but it might help your case too.
24 April 2021, 01:24
K EvansI’ve had banded solids collapse the shoulder on .416 Rigby, chamfering the inside of the neck solved the issue.
24 April 2021, 03:36
tsturmquote:
Originally posted by K Evans:
I’ve had banded solids collapse the shoulder on .416 Rigby, chamfering the inside of the neck solved the issue.
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24 April 2021, 20:33
Todd WilliamsI've only collapsed the shoulder with them when trying to seat and crimp in the same operation. But my expander does put a decent flange on the mouth prior to seating the way I have it adjusted.
24 April 2021, 23:40
AtkinsonIn rare cases you sometimes need to outside or inside neck ream then resize..too tight a neck can cause problems..A chamber cast usually reveals all problems..
Perhaps one size larger expander ball will solve your problem, in most cases thats the easiest and quickest way to solve your problem..expander balls are cheap so its the easy fix in 99% of such cases..
But first try a slow gentle touch, ease the bullet it, don't cram it..usually works, with a decent chamfer..Its particularly a problem with double rifles and thin brass..