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Well, it had to happen sooner or later, the old Lyman Power Trimmer just took a dump.

I've used the thing a ton, had it since 1986 and it finally crawled to a stop, then gave one last good pop. It looks and smells like the motor windings melted.

Smoked the loading room up all to crap and set off the smoke alarms.

So, I need a new trimmer.

I would buy another Lyman, but after reading thru the search results there is a better mousetrap available today.

Both look good, both ain't cheap and I've never seen either up close and personal. I believe in buy once, cry once where loading gear is concerned and the Gracey and Giraud seem to be top quality units

Can some of you guys give me your opinion, from a little first-hand experience.

Caliber conversion, simplicity (complexity) of use/setup and results are most critical, speed being secondary. Warranty, replacement parts availability etc.. play a part too, but I'm hoping with top quality stuff, these won't be necessary for a whale of a long time.

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BigSlick10mm

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Giraud
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RCBS
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Posts: 10 | Location: TX | Registered: 10 January 2006Reply With Quote
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I have the electric rcbs with the 3 way cutter. Most of my reloading is in 30 cal. Once you've done a few set ups with it you can do it fast. Probably 1-2 min max to change around for different cases. Along side the trimmer I have a trimmmate and on one of the stations I put a low angle deburrer from lyman. (screwed it out of the wood handle and it screwed right into the station). I also have a bronze brush on a station for cleaning carbon out of necks in case I don't tumble before resizing.
I LOVE the trimmer and the trimmate but I do not use the primer pocket uniformer on the trimmate because there is a slight wobble on all the stations and I thought I was getting a slightly egg shaped cut. That's the only drawback to my system.
 
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why not just take the motor to a repair shop & get it fixed or replaced
 
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The motor has a proprietary mounting footprint, the switch smoked on it too and the thing is showing it's age.

I talked to Lyman, they offered to repair the switch, but weren't sure if the current motor would fit a 20+ year old unit.

The collar is still in good shape, but the bars it rides on are worn too. Short answer, everything needs to be replaced.

I figured instead of drop another +/- $200, I would see what's out there. The Lyman is great, but kinda cumbersome to use compared to the Gracey and Giraud.

The motors for both are replaceable from a local source and they appear to be faster to use, and handle the trim, chamfer and debur in one step.

BigSlick10mm


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I use a forester holding collet in a drill press....it works very well.....Use the Forester cutter with the pilot in the press chuck.


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Although I don't own one-yet, it is generally understood in the various small caliber and benchrest forums I frequent that the Giraud tool is much user friendly than the Gracey. The biggest thing mentioned is there is a switch to cut the Giraud motor on and off instead of just plugging it into the wall.

http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

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Posts: 109 | Location: NE,TN | Registered: 17 September 2004Reply With Quote
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Like kraky, I too use the RCBS motorized trimmer with the 3 way trim set up. It is a breeze to use and if you have a boatload of cases to trim you can sly through them like a knife through warm butter.
Once set up, very easy and fast to swap calibers around.
Never used a Gracy or Giraud so I cannot compare.
 
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Giraud sets the standard.
 
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Haven't tried the Giraud. My good buddy and I tried 2 different Gracey's and couldn't get either to work near as well as our RCBS units. The RCBS unit may not be the fastest but is very easy to use and isn't as expensive. I reccommend the RCBS unit and have used it on many thousands of cases..................DJ


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Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I have two Gracey trimmers. Next time will get a Giraud. The Gracey is very good, the Giraud is better still.

Both the Gracey and Giraud are designed for trimming mass quantities of one caliber. They both work best with a carbide cutter blade. It looks like the Giraud would be easier to change from one case to another, but I don't have direct experience with that. The Gracey is a bit of a pain to adjust, but I have done it several times with very good results.

For trimming modest quantities of different sizes of hunting cases I use an RCBS power trimmer. It is decent for that application. The RCBS is not as accurate as either the Gracey or the Giraud, but that shouldn't matter with hunting ammunition.

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I've got the RCBS electric trimmer and a Foster trimmer that I attached a battery operated drill. Honestly, I prefer the Foster, it is faster (for me anyway) and it was a lot cheaper.
 
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My RCBS trimmer deviates less than .0005" on length when trimming anything from 222 to 338RUM cases. The trick is seating the casehead against the unit face correctly. I have contemplated the other units several times, but with the excellent consistency I get from my RCBS, I'll spend the extra cash on some other tools. FWIW


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