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Moly bullets: Swear by or swear at.
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Been doing some reading in my new book from Glen Zediker, Handloading for Competition, and was reading the good and bad about moly coated bullets. Seems like, according to Glen, that some folks swear by them and some folks swear at them. For those of you who have used them in the past or are still using them today, let me know how you feel about them, the good stuff, the not so good stuff. I'm considering trying some in a few of my rifles but haven't made up my mind yet. I have shot a few in the past but not enough to make an educated decision. Thanks for any and all opinions!!
 
Posts: 314 | Location: SW Missouri | Registered: 08 August 2007Reply With Quote
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IMO - useless
 
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What info do you have to draw that conclusion, just curious.
 
Posts: 314 | Location: SW Missouri | Registered: 08 August 2007Reply With Quote
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We have been using molly coated bullets for years, and frankly, would not consider using bullets without them if given the chance.

If we just forget some of the wild claims made - both for and against - in our own experience we have not noticed any negtive effect at all.

And the barrels certainly foul much less with molly coated bullets.

That is a good enough reason for me to use molly.


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I shot moly coated 168 SMK's out of my 30-06 for years being told that cleaning was a cinch. Boy were they wrong. First problem was I was molying myself and sometimes I'd put on too much wax. Other problem was that you need to use special products to clean moly like JB nonimbedding compound, then use a solvent to get out the JB. Third problem I had was because I wasn't cleaning properly, I had moly buildup and moly attracted moisture in my hunting rifle. I wound up with a little rust in my bore.

I will probably never use it again, even though I realize that with proper care, I wouldn't have had those problems. I swear AT moly coat
 
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I use it and will continue to use it until something better comes along.

The biggest mistake made by beginning Moly users is thinking they no longer need to clean the Bores. You still need to do it, but as Saeed said, it is much easier. And you absolutely positively must "Lightly Lube" the Bore after cleaning - just as should be done on any rifle.

If you are a casual shooter, it might not be worth the slight bit of extra effort. If you shoot a lot it is worth it. And if you spend some time shooting looooong distances, then it is an asset because it typically ups the B.C. by 5% which is verifiable with an accurate rifle and a competent shooter.

Good stuff - once you get the minor Tricks figured out.
 
Posts: 9920 | Location: Carolinas, USA | Registered: 22 April 2001Reply With Quote
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I used it when I was shooting High Power.I could shoot a whole Match without cleaning.I found it to be not necessary for use in hunting rifles.If I were to get back into high volume shooting,I would use it again!!! Big Grin
 
Posts: 4372 | Location: NE Wisconsin | Registered: 31 March 2007Reply With Quote
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ive used it off and on with no problems what so ever!heck people don''t even know how to clean their barrels let alone use Moly?
your learning by reading now prove it to your self one way or the other, quite simple really.
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I like to use Moly in rifles that I plan to shoot a lot, in order to extend barrel life etc.. I've also found that for some reason some guns just seem to shoot better with Moly'd bullets. My Kimber 84M shoots the same bullets more accurately when I Moly them.
I use the Midway system to moly bullets and it's easy and inexpensive if a little messy.
I'll continue to use it...................................DJ


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Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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How does moly improve the BC of a bullet?


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How does moly improve the BC of a bullet?



That is a really good question that I wish someone could come up with a proven, authoritative answer to.
I have no real proof but think that it might. I've seen pictures of fired bullets with and without Moly. The Moly'd bullets had smoother and shallower engravings from the lands and think that perhaps the shallower lands engravings might indeed give a higher B.C................................DJ


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Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I don't have an opinion on this matter...yet. I just got done loading some Partition Golds up for test. They've got a moly coat on them, so we'll see how they shoot. They certainly look cool when loaded, but the little bit of gray I get on my fingers after handling them annoys me.


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Posts: 1225 | Location: Gilbertsville, PA | Registered: 08 December 2005Reply With Quote
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The Midway Moly system works well, especially with the now discontinued Barnes X bullets. But whether them or 22 caliber target bullets, I always start with a bore cleaned of fouling by a Foul Out II, then anoint the bore with liquid moly. I do not coat the finished product with wax. Any moly that rubs off comes from the loaded bullet's ogive which doesn't touch the bore anyway.

I don't use it for every bullet I shoot, however. On some of my guns it doesn't matter whether I moly or not. I never swear AT it.
 
Posts: 4799 | Location: Lehigh county, PA | Registered: 17 October 2002Reply With Quote
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Below is a portion of a post I made on the Ask Berger thread. It is significant to this subject and might help in the understanding of the use of moly.

You be the judge:

We have a better understanding now that moly does allow the shooter to maintain the same level of precision longer than non-coated bullets during a shooting session. After the shooting session it is important to clean your barrel. We strongly recommend cleaning your barrel after each shooting session or at least at the end of the day.

The claim that moly will extend the life of a barrel was based on a test conducted by Norma. Norma uses 1 MOA at 300 yards as there standard to determine if a barrel is no longer usable for testing. When Norma tested loads using moly coated bullets they observed that it took nearly double the number of rounds to reach their 1 MOA at 300 yard standard.

These findings certainly support the claim that barrel life is extended when using moly. The trouble is most target shooters would make a barrel a pump handle long before it reached 1 MOA. When the standard is 1/4 or 1/2 MOA the number of shots that it takes to reach this tighter standard is not significantly greater than if you were using non-moly. Once we understood this we backed off on promoting this claim (among a few other like the fact that you don't need to clean your barrel when using moly which is not true).

I know moly is a hot buttom for many shooters so I will not go too deeply into this subject unless someone wants me to. I can tell you that Walt, Eunice (while she was alive) and I have shot only moly coated bullets since the moly concept was introduced and we are very pleased with the results.

This is new: Moly works if you work it. It is not best for those who shoot a few rounds (hunters) but is worth the effort if you shoot many rounds (competition or varmint shooters).

The bottom line is does moly help YOU or not? The answer to this question is key. Don't let moly or the lack of keep you from shooting. In the end your results are yours and should be regarded as such.

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Posts: 32 | Location: Fullerton, CA | Registered: 06 December 2007Reply With Quote
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I do moly coating on bullets that may go over 2600 fps.

The medium is a pain to separate from small bullets. I started using BBs and separating magnetically today. The BBs seem to get the coating done in 5 minutes.
 
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I do not use moly. Saving barrel life takes all the fun out of getting a NEW barrel installed.


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I have both on hand......in .224 caliber I have about 3,000 V-Max bullets in moly and about 1,000 50 grain TNTs in moly.....when I decide to shoot them I'll do just that.....until then I'll shoot uncoated bullets as I really don't see a lot (if any) difference.


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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
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Thanks for all the info so far guys, keep it coming. Seems like there is a slight lean towards the swear by them crowd but I guess I'll have to try them for myself and see if they work for me or not. My biggest concern was the cleaning and what MIGHT happen if cleaning is delayed or ommitted for some time.
 
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