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Guys:

Looking for a load for the 6.5 X 55 in a modern rifle using Hornady 120 gr A- Max bullets.

Any help out there?

Thanks,

Bob
 
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You could try doing this as a guideline;

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260 Rem
120 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H4350 .264" 2.780" 43.5 2814 51,400 PSI 46.5 2960 58,200 PSI

6.5x55
120 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4350 .264" 3.000" 41.5 2545 36,800 CUP 46.0 2792 45,800 CUP

6.5-06
120 GR. SFT SP Hodgdon H4350 .264" 3.150" 45.0 2823 54,300 PSI 49.0 2996 63,300 PSI
A 6% increase in powder charge in the 260 produces a 13.2% increase in pressure.
A 10.8% increase in the 6.5x55 produces a 24.5 % increase in pressure.
The target pressure for the modern 6.5x55 would be 51,000CUP - an 11.4% increase. That would require around 6% increase in powder from 46gr which gives 48.75gr. That is only an indication of what one might expect with some powders! H4350 seems to work for this. BUT! All loads need to be worked up! (Obviously). Note that the bullets listed are not the same and are not the ones you want to use. One should also look at how the pressue increases for the same powder in a larger case.
The 6.5-06 shows a similar pressure increase with the same powder so it looks like that would indeed be your ballpark. But I must cover myself by saying that is only an expected ballpark! Wink It's not an official load data! Big Grin


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303:

Thanks for the info. I have some I4350 and the load data from the 100 gr and 129 gr Horn bullets. I may just do some extrapolation and err on the side of caution.

Thanks again.

Best,

Bob
 
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I have some I4350

IMR (or H) 4350 is on the right track.

Work up from 44 grains with the 120 grain bullets.

You did say modern loads so you might see over 3,000 FPS
 
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From Hogdgon's website.

Its for the Nosler BT but that is similar to Hornady Amax

120 GR. NOS BT IMR 4350 COL 3.000"

Wt vel pressure
43.0 2631 39,500 CUP

46.8C 2863 46,000 CUP


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Do you know what the rate of twist in your rifling?


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James:

Not sure of the twist.

Guys:

Have worked up a load of of 45.5 of I 4350, and it seems to shoot very well. Have not chronod as yet.

Thanks for your help.

BTW, 'dem Tikkas can shoot.

Bob
 
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That sounds about right, that seems to be in the same ball park of what I was loading for my swede. Its not fresh off the top of my head, its been with the gun smith all winter. Should be back soon.
If you want to PM me and talk about working out loads with your new swede to my old feel free. But then again, I maybe able to work up to the new pressures after getting it back from the smithy.
Best of luck!


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James:

Thanks for the offer.

That's a fine looking Swede. Do you use it on these Maine whitetails?

Bob
 
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Thanks! Do you have, or can you take one of your swede?
I use it on everything Wink I should have a good enough accuracy to use the 110-120gr to hit coyote, around here its like hunting white tail. Kills are usually under 50yds. But I prefer to use 140's accost the table so I can don't have to mess with the ballistics much, and re-sight the scope in.


But when I get it back, it will have new internals in the bolt, new barrel, muzzle brake, barrel, stock and trigger. Then blued to a nice flat black after sand blast dimpling so I can use some duracoat if I would choose to.


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