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Now that I have your attention; there is a growing demand for 350 Remington Mag Brass and Ammo. There is no primary source for either, and whilst AR members are generous with sharing, this is not a solution. And it is a great caliber; not sure why it died. I still use it. I look for Hornady to be the ultimate solution; Remington is too big to care..But Hornady makes lots of obscure brass, with less demand than a 350 would. I called them last week and talked to a rep; he said that Marketing needs to have some inquires about it in order to even consider making them. I gave them a firm order for the first 1000 pieces. So, here is what I propose; every AR member call Hornady and ask them to make 350 Remington Mag brass. That's it. Yes, I have an ulterior motive; I am making rifles for it and all brass has to be hand made from 7mm brass; a PITA to do. Here is the number; 1-800-338-3220. Clever use of calibers. Do your good deed for the day. Thanks. | ||
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Done,,, I tend to use more than enough gun | |||
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I really appreciate it and I think it will work. | |||
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So the OP is proposing that as many members as possible should lie to Hornady about our intention to buy .350 RM brass, giving Hornady a false idea of the actual demand. So if they go ahead and make a run of brass they may never sell it all. Good plan for screwing a great company. Don’t count on my support. . | |||
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The cartridge died because it was released in small light weight carbines with short barrels. The muzzle blast was horrendous as was the recoil. With the Ruger and the Remington 700 the rifle's were easier to handle. Remington also released a small run of the model 7 in which I had one. 20" barrel was perfect for it. I was only wishing it was left handed. I sold it to a member here and i'm hoping he's happy with it. | |||
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There was a rifle shop in Middlebury CT that had a Browning bolt gun in 350 Remington Magnum, maybe should have bought it... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Come on TX, there is plenty of demand out there without you buying any, but I do not have access to those other guys to ask for help. I didn't say to lie to them; you thought of that. Trust me, there is way more demand for 350 than you think and it will sell better than some of the bass they make. Look at the prices for ammo on the web and you will see a tremendous demand. They will do their market research first. I just want to get them to start the process. If there was a source of brass, demand for rifles would go up; it has to start somewhere. As for rifles, Remington and Ruger made 22 inch barrel rifles for it; recoil is nothing. | |||
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I agree, the .350RM is my favorite black bear caliber. I bought a 673 Remington in 2003, it's been a great little gun. Recoil? No not bad at all. The old m600's did have a bit of muzzle blast with their 18 inch barrel and I'm sure that's really what turned people off plus the looks but even they didn't recoil that bad. Where I live just try to buy an original rifle in .350RM for less than $1000. So there is definitely a demand. Most of my brass is either Remington or Nosler but another source would be helpful so count me in.  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Yes, it's a great caliber; not too big and not too small; very efficient. I have four of them and I want more. I have a Standard 700 with long action, a Model 7 with a 600 barrel on it, another 700, and a Winchester Model 70. Oh, in case anyone else was confused by my intent, of course, please don't tell Hornady that you will buy brass unless you actually will. That would not be right. But if you like the caliber and might want a rifle, then call them. There is no new source of brass at this time. | |||
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why not just order 100,000 pieces and sell it to all of those who need it. You get what you need and make a few bucks in the process. | |||
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I will do that; good idea. | |||
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dpcd, Kind of a side question to the .350RM, have you used the Winchester model 70 short action for one? It's my understanding that they aren't a true short action like the Remington model 7 but are almost a medium length designed to fit their WSM cartridges. If so I've thought one barreled to the .350RM would allow a little more room for 250 grain bullets without the need to go to the long action. Oh and the bear in my avatar was taken with my .350 using a 225 grain Nosler Partition. One shot, a very short 20 yard wobbly run with a blood trail that a blind man could follow and done. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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I use the 350RM brass to make my 416 Express. Built on a ruger 300 RCM action. | |||
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Yes I used a Model 70 short action for one last month, and yes, those are way longer at 3.08 than either a model 7 or short 700, and allow a long seated bullet in the mag box. I have a throater and make each throat to the bullets that will be used. But I use mostly long actions as they are easier to get. Now, if you use and need 350 brass, please call Horandy and help. | |||
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Thanks for the reply and yes I've already made the call to Hornady..... Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Excellent. | |||
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Palladin8, I agree with you. I recently rebarreled a Ruger short action with a 22 inch heavy barrel in 350 RM. Should be tame to shoot. Also, with the 600 rem action 350RM actions you had to seat the heavy bullets deeply to fit in the mag box and it reduced the powder capacity. The Ruger short action is not a problem that way. dpcd, I will phone Hornady on Monday. IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Probably because it didn't do any better than the Wehlen in the field.  roger  Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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We have lots of cartridges that duplicate one another; that wasn't the issue. Cougar said it; it was killed on delivery as the platform it was put on was flawed in concept. Or, good concept, except most hunters can't handle recoil and the blast was excessive; so, it didn't sell well. By the time it came out in standard rifles, the damage was done. Everyone thought it was a brute; it isn't. As you say, same as Whelen. I watched it closely from 1964 to now; as Elmer said, "Hell, I was There". | |||
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Awesome chambering the 350RemMag is. Duplicates the 35 Whelen in a platform that weighs a few pound less. I wouldn't part w/any of my 350 Rem Mags- 700 BDL,700Classic,600,673,Seven,XP-100R I have 2500pcs of Rem brass stock piled. | |||
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I have a Model 7.. I bought enough brass when it was available. Both Remington and Nosler list it. Midway has 350 brass as backorderable, order it and wait, I saw 22 Jet on the shelf last week so there is hope for 350 mag. M | |||
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You have 2500 rounds of brass stockpiled? I started on the 350 late, just this year, so my opportunity to buy brass is zero. I now have four rifles. I'll check Midway for back orders. Just did; no back orders allowed. Unavailable-Limited production. They will notify when available but there is no back order. | |||
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I'm confuzzzzeddd...can't just about ANY belted mag brass be reformed into 350 RM while the supply is non-existent and you're waiting??? I KNOW it's a lot of work but if I had a rifle I wanted to use and I couldn't get brass for it I certainly wouldn't just let it sit if there was ANY other method of getting it up and running. Surely there is some 308 or 358 Norma Mag available or 338 WM and it's only what, ~0.350" longer...reforming that should be a walk in the park to any longtime wildcatter. I think your idea has a lot of merit and will join in even though I don't have a 350 RM. I also can't understand why none of the other brass makers don't have a few pieces lying around unless the hoarders went and did their thing as usual and are just waiting to use you like a............ Not to be even more the odd man out...but if worst came to rock throwing, why not rechamber to one of the modern fat cat cases like the RCM or WSM and rechambering...you're getting basically the same case volume or slightly larger and all the brass availability you could possibly need...or sell it for big money to someone who can't live without one. Just saying while I'm spacing. LUCK | |||
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People either strongly like or dislike the m600 & 660's. They are kind of let's say different looking. As I posted earlier they have a strong cult following in western Washington where I live. Light compact rifles are popular here especially with Roosevelt elk hunters in our very thick coastal rain forest environment. No manufacturer has ever really come up with a better concept for these conditions. It's amazing how many I run into considering how realitively few were made. A couple years back I found a mint 660 .308 in a gunshop for a very good price, needless to say it quickly found its way home. I like the 660's best because they have a 20" barrel without the raised rib. When I showed it to my wife she immediately claimed it as hers. She did say I could "borrow" it whenever I wanted though. Nice of her to be so generous!  Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Well one very good reason is because the .350RM was a factory cartridge from the beginning but the Whelen was not until much later. As it turns out the .350 & 6.5's led the way to the latest short mags that are popular currently. But even they don't do anything some other existing cartridge didn't already do. So really all that differs is the package they're chambered in. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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All good points. NON, Sure, they can be formed from any magnum brass; 7mm Rem is the best, as it is readily available. Using something like a 358 Norma doesn't help as you still are forming a neck out of a body, starting out with a 350 or 338 is no advantage. I have reformed lots of 7mms. But, here is the process; FL size. Trim to old neck off to length, in my lathe. FL size again and this time, use the expander plug. Ream neck inside because it is too thick to chamber. Then anneal. So, whilst it is not hard to do, it's just time. Rechamber? That defeats the whole point. Anyone can feed a common cartridge. I want something unique. No distributor has any brass; I have checked. It's just a periodic production thing. As far as short mags go, I don't really want one, which is why I chamber them all in long actions and seat bullets no deeper than the neck base. . Something Unique, remember? | |||
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Yeah...I understand your point and been there, done that and STILL doing it...I seem to always take that path less traveled. I just can't believe there are no 350 RM brass available.  I put in an order for 500 and notification at Midway...might help or??? While I really thought those early two toned 600 were the bomm and couldn't figure out why all the hoohaw over the dog leg, short barrel, funny looking rib, etc...look at what we have online in todays world and all the comments...we NEVER change. Besides I'm NEVER satisfied...no matter what I acquire I gotta muck it about and change something. As I posted somewhere my Savage 338 Lapua isn't doing a such a very good job so I've started prepping for a 338-416 or 338 Rigby or pick one of the already been done names. Nothing wild or outlandish...basically my 510 Makatak necked to 338 cal so I can use the dies partially...or a Rigby case necked to 338 keeping all the other parameters original 416 Rigby other than the slight shoulder extension and slightly shorter neck so I wont have to buy no stinking high dollar dies. I will cut a short neck sizer and use cheap 416 basic dies. These thoughts started up about the 20th pi** poor target with expensive target bullets and loads that were doing 200 yd bugholes for other Lapua rifles, NOT Savage rifles. A bit disappointing but happens. Lets hope Midway, Hornady, Nosler or SOMEBODY starts producing 350 RM brass...soon. Good Hunting  | |||
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I hope so. Why 600s? Because they are unique. I am building one now on a Model 7, and making the stock from scratch. Laminated walnut and beech, 5 layers. Why? Just because. I have the blank glued together and the metal is done. I know, I could buy one, but anyone can do that. | |||
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 I think the 600s had to do a lot with the interest decay in the two short magnums.The excessive jet thrust created by the large powder capacity exhausting from the short barrel generated quite a recoil thump. Combined with the loud Kaboom they were no beneficial marketing aids. personally I like the 600s and used one to make into one of my short wildcats. rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Upon further review/inventory- 350 Rem Mags on premises; 1NIB 700 BDL 1 hunted 700 BDL 1NIB 700 Classic 1 hunted 700 Classic 1 hunted 600 1 hunted 660 1NIB 673 1 hunted Seven Rem Custom Shop KS 1NIB Seven 1 hunted Seven 1NIB XP-100R Rem Custom Shop KS ambi grip. 1 hunted XP-100R Rem Custom Shop KS finger groove grip. 2800pcs of virgin Rem 350 RM brass. purchased in 90's from Lock Stock & Bbl in NE. @ $75 per 500pcs of which NONE for sale. | |||
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I totally grok that...It's ALWAYS about "just because", "my thing" and "I hear a different drummer"!!!!   Good Hunting | |||
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I saw 350Rem mag brass listed in the new Nosler catalog under Nosler Custom Brass on 2/04/18. | |||
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Black Hills Shooters Supply lists .350 RM brass from Remington. They say it may not currently be in stock but that backorders are OK. That is from their latest flier that I read today, 6 Feb. | |||
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I talked to both Remington Corporate, and the ammo plant in Arkansas, last week. Both said that they have NO plans to produce 350 brass, ever, in spite of the constant calls for it. The fact is, if they can't make a million of something, they won't do it. So anyone who says to back order it, good luck with that. Yes, Nosler is again available., $40 for 25; way over what it should cost, but good brass. Dans, good for you; keep what you have. I didn't seriously discover the 350 until last fall when two original barrels fell into my lap. | |||
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Have you tried qual-cart Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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By any chance did you ask about 6.5 Mag brass? I'm gonna guess if they aren't doing 350 they won't be making any 6.5 either | |||
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No I didn't ask about that. Quality Cartridge is out, but they do make it; however, I would buy Nosler if I had to pay $2 for a piece. I will convert 7mm Mags first. | |||
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I know how you feel I have the same problem finding 358 norma mag brass. I buy it every time I find any for sale. | |||
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At least it is easier to blow out than to neck down; that pesky neck thickness thing.... | |||
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