I need a good bullet for deer 22-250
i know this is a small cal for deer but a
small framed 8 year old will be shooting it,
Deer are small here.
Thanks !

The 60 grain Partition, 55 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and the Barnes 53 grain TSX do very well, but there have been many deer taken with 22-250s loaded with the Hornady 60 grain SP, Winchester 64 grain Power Point and Sierra 55 grain BTHP GameKing as well. Teach him good shot placement and stress the anatomical configuration of the animal, and he'll do just fine.

Have to agree with the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. Excellent bullet.

The 60 gr. barrier bullet should do a good job. roger

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Originally posted by reloader len:
I need a good bullet for deer 22-250
i know this is a small cal for deer but a
small framed 8 year old will be shooting it,
Deer are small here.
Thanks !

First of all I would not trust an eight year old alone with a gun. Second of all a .22-250 is too small for deer.

I don't think the youngster will be alone with the gun. What better father-son pasttime than hunting and shooting? I'd agree that a 22-250 is rather small for a deer. I'd go for the .243Win as a minimum.

22-250 is fine for deer if you make your shots. A freind of mine shot a 200# mulie with 29" rack this year with a 22-250.

I killed many, many deer in central Texas with a 22-250. But the key is shot placement. You need to spend a lot of time with the youngster at the range. Be sure that he has good ear protection so that he doesn't develop a flinch. He needs to shoot from a variety of positions, not just from the bench. And he should also shoot close to dark. Jerking the trigger is always the major problem to deal with.
Practice, practice, practice!

Good luck.

5-shots, 200-yards
Bullet: Sierra 55 Grain Spitzer Boat Tail
Powder: 39.2 grains of Hodgdon H-414
Primer: Remington 9-1/2
Case: Remington
Firearm: Winchester 70
Optics: Leupold 4x12AO
Velocity: 3410 FPS @ 15' from muzzle

Works fine on deer and antelope (and the smaller critters)

My son will not be alone!
His shooting is wonderfull for a kid his age.He has been shooting this gun for a year and shoots it well,He has been shooting crows off a corn pile thats 150 yards from my bench.
The 243 would be a better cal ,but for now
the 22-250 will have to do.
Thanks guys for all the info!

Steve is that a 'steel' penny in your target pic. Prety cool if so.....

I don't have any 22-250 data but I have tried most of the premium game bullets in my 223 Remington. So far none shoot better that the Winchester 64 gr Powerpoint. Price should not be an issue but as the least expensive game bullet the Powerpoint allows for plenty of practice. Keep the range to target on the short side and hold out for broadsides. $0.02

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Originally posted by Fish30114:
Steve is that a 'steel' penny in your target pic. Prety cool if so.....

Nope, just a plain old beat-up copper penny.

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First of all I would not trust an eight year old alone with a gun. Second of all a .22-250 is too small for deer.

Point one.....I agree strongly
point two: equally strongly disagree.

The .220 Swift (ballistic twin) has been successfully hunting deer since 1935 or so....It's a devastating killer in the hands of those that can shoot it well.

My eyes aren't the best, but it looks like a 1993 penny. Copper plated zinc.

Interesting replies but I have to wonder how many deer some posters have actually shot with a 22/250 or similar .224 diameter projectiles?
I've actually had the opportunity to shoot a lot of deer with the 22/250 and a few Antelope as well. Yeah I've used the Sierras and Hornadays in 50, 55 and 60 and even the Speer in 70 grain but none of those can remotely compare to the consistent results of the Barnes X bullets. These bullets expand well and most importantly hold together and continue to penetrate and usually exit where all of the others have entered and fragmented.
Don't use a Varmint bullet for Deer!
In my humble opinion all of the standard offerings are Varmint purpose bullets not intended for anything bigger than a coyote, the Trophy Bonded and the Nosler partition may work well but for me I will stick with Barnes bullets for Deer in small caliber guns.
I was lucky and never lost an animal but I was also careful and while using the varmint bullets only took double lung, neck or head shots. The Barnes does not make it a rifle that takes them down from every angle, but offers a little more leaway with shots as compared to the varmint pills. Be very picky of your shots, use the right bullets and you'll do fine and see some devastating kills out of the little rifles.

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Interesting replies but I have to wonder how many deer some posters have actually shot with a 22/250 or similar .224 diameter projectiles?

I have used the 52 HPBT and 55 grain SBT Sierra bullets on antelope, mule deer and whitetail deer with complete success, in my .22-250's.

I have also used the Sierra 50 grains spitzer in my .220 Swifts on the above animals, and am currently working-up loads for a new .220 Swift using the Sierra 55 grain SBT bullet.

Two of my Montana hunting buddies use their .22-250's for deer and antelope (using the 55 grain Sierra bullets), and one of my old hunting buddies in California used nothing but a .222 Remington on everything he shot.

In addition, the people I used to hunt with in Pennsylvania used both their .22-250;s and .243's on deer and antelope in Wyoming. The Sierra 52's in their .22's and the Sierra 85 HPBT in their .243's (I use that bullet in my .243 and 6mm Remington.)

None of us has ever lost an animal or had to track an animal after the first shot.

I agree with Snellstrom that the barnes X bullets are good deer bullets.... but I have to part paths when he states they are better than the Speer 70 grain SMP in a 22.250....

If you are not into trendy spendy, two of the best bullets ( that are non premium, and have been around for quite a while) are the 63 grain Sierra SMP and the 70 grain Speer... I prefer the Speer...

I have taken 7 or 8 deer with that in a 22.250 an they were all instant one shot kills... this has been on Oregon Blacktail deer... the only negative thing I can say about it.. is don't do this shot on one...

I shot a large buck that busted out of the brush at about 200 yds, from me, saw me and turned in the opposite direction of me.. I aimed over its tail and pulled the trigger, the cross hairs on the back of its neck....

The deer dropped instantly... it hit the spinal cord in its neck.. and the exit would came out of the neck about the size of a dinner plate!

For powder, I use H 414, out of the Hodgdon Number 26 manual... for an MV of 3300 fps...

Luckily I had no intension of mounting the head.. as one antler was gone on one side.. otherwise it would have been a nice deer head....buck was about 140 lbs for a blacktail.... not too bad!

cheers
seafire

I have killed 4 cous deer whitetails with my 22-250. All them between 100 and 375 yards with factory Reamington 55 grain soft points. All have exited with about quarter size wounds and not one went more than 20 yards after being hit.

I have wanted to try it but you can kill just about anything with proper shot placement. Just do not use varmit bullets.

What twist of barrel are you using the bullets in with the 22-250?

I have 15 under the belt of my 22-250 and the Sierra 55gr. Game King bullet (I think it's number is 1365) I have since sold this rifle to the one who took the last 3 deer with it.
While I'll be the first to say the 22-250 is too small in the hands of most bubba's that shoot a box of ammo in 3 years and just shoot deer but most of the folks I know shoot and shoot a lot and are fine marksmen which is the whole point of hunting being able to put the bullet where it should go, hell there are some folks out there and you see them mostly come out about 2 weeks prior to season that I belive a 45-70 would not be enough gun anyway good luck to ya oh I about fogot this load works good under H380 powder but start with around 35.0 and work your way up! I found that the sweet spot with my 250 was 36.5gr. Later,

Kirk

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Originally posted by Savage99:

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Originally posted by reloader len:
I need a good bullet for deer 22-250
i know this is a small cal for deer but a
small framed 8 year old will be shooting it,
Deer are small here.
Thanks !

First of all I would not trust an eight year old alone with a gun. Second of all a .22-250 is too small for deer.

RUBBISH!!!!!

That being said, I've had good luck with the Barnes TSX 53 g over Varget goof out to 345 lazered yards for me!!!! JMHO

I can confirm that under controlled conditions (small deer, undisturbed, broadside shots, dad present) the 70gr Speer from a 22-250 does a fine job.

(father of 3 sons, now in their 20's)

Folks my first deer was at 7 years old with a very excited uncle and me with a bloddy nose holding a Remington 11-87 12ga. with a smile from ear to ear! now I loved to shoot his 22-250 and I was pretty good with it but like some of the others posting he felt it was too small for deer, he was a firm and die hard beliver in the 270, ain't it funny hows time change, now he uses a 243 and his boys use his 22-250. I have seen the 22-250 do a fine job on deer and would not feel undergunned taking one out! if you are a good shot and a good hunter you will know your game and know where the shot should be placed and DO IT EVERYTIME! these folks that talk about the not so great angles or what if you shot a deer in the liver? BS! a hunter will wait for a good shot and respects the game he is after! he does not just shoot for fur and hope for the best (See bubba's in my post above)
I love the fact that folks swear it takes at minimum a whatever magnum to kill a deer, hey what did your grandfathers dad use to shoot deer? probably some ol' military rifle picked up from the Sears book and it worked just fine right? or were they undergunned being that magmums didn't exist? if a 22-250 is too small for deer tell me this, WHY? don't just say it is not enough gun explain why please. Later,

Kirk

And now back to the topic...

reloader Len... I have used sierra 55 grain game kings in my 22-250. I have killed two nice bucks with these loaded infront of 36.2 grains of IMR 4064.. They are inexpensive and kill deer dead...

I have also killed several deer with 55 grain ballistic tips.... But hey a 22 long rifle will kill a deer if you shoot it in the right spot.

When talk of whacking deer and 250’s come up, all I can remember is, why did Nosler quit making the 55g solid base lead point.

35. 5g of IMR 4895 / 55g Nosler solid base lead point was always my pet in .250 It would whack um’ and stack um’ in the right hands.

ditto what ChoPPeR said...
Um, did you spark yours with Federal's 210M?

Guys, while I never got to try the Nosler bullets I have had some real good luck with Sierra's 55gr. GameKing, you might try it and see how it compairs, of the deer shot with them in my 22-250 2 have made it past 15-20 yards the others were DRT (Dead Right There) I think the number is 1365 but don't hold me to it I'm going off memory and my brain cell is pretty full Later,

Kirk

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Originally posted by buckshot:
ditto what ChoPPeR said...
Um, did you spark yours with Federal's 210M?

Buckshot, I used Standard large primers for IMR 4895, used Mag’s for H-380 in my .250 loads. Funny thing is when I tried the 55g Nosler solid base in a 223 and 222; the bullet didn’t perform well as far as expansion. Even had that problem in the .250’s when the velocity was under 3500 fps. I found the ideal speed for this bullet was 3636 fps for expansion performance on Deer size game. The bullet would expend most of it lead during entry and exit but the jacket would almost always punch all the way through even on shoulder shots for a blood trail if needed!

You could always tell the solid base was doing it job well in the places it should because the tissue shock at entry point wasn’t excessive and on exit it was sufficient to demonstrate the Bullet still had plenty of punch.

Sierra 1360's @ 4,000fps. work well for me. Anyone that says a 22/250 or a Swift is too small for deer, simply hasn't tried it. Speed Kills.
This bullet lazered a 1/2" truck spring leaf, and I think most would agree(certainly not all) this is very tough stuff, has to be as tough as or close to armour plate?.And most anyone(not all) would concede that if a bullet would penetrate spring steel that a deer wouldn't be much of a challenge. The bullets went in about 30 cal. and about .45 on the exit side, I know I was impressed. These are varmint bullets!
In Parker Ackley's(sorry Don) book(s), it shows a frontal section from an Army half track, long story short, a .220 Swift with a 48gr. factory(varmint) load completely penetrated it(twice, all 3 fired 2 shots each) while a 30/06 with armour piercing rounds merely cratered it(.093"if memory serves) and .270 Win with 100gr. Silvertips just splattered. This is not in any way meant to degrade the 30/06(which i have much respect for) or the .270, just trying to make a point. Did I mention that SPEED KILLS(grin) and shoots flat while it's at it.
To me .22 centerfires in the 22/250, 22/250 Ackley Improved or .220 Swift CLASS(not necessarily in that order) leave nothing to be desired, nothing at all. All replies welcome.

Stepchild

Another excellent deer bullet is either the 52 or 53 gr Hornady match HPBT. They are tough enough to take the velocity but never fail to open up. They've accounted for about 90 deer (cull does) and well over 100 hogs in 220 Swifts and should do just as well in the 22-250.

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Originally posted by reloader len:
I need a good bullet for deer 22-250
i know this is a small cal for deer but a
small framed 8 year old will be shooting it,
Deer are small here.
Thanks !

Len,
Range time is the most important thing right now, get her where she can shoot a group and the rest will fall into place. Make it fun for her, milk jugs full of water,etc, kids like that. Let's face it paper targets aren't too much fun for most kids. Water filled baloons? Make it fun. Don't forget the ear muffs.

Stepchild

I would try the new Sierra 65 gr. spitzer boat tail GameKing on deer, if you gun cannot stabilize that long a bullet, go with the Barnes.

Partitions are a fine bullet in the 250, I'd really think that AB's would rock in this caliber.

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First of all I would not trust an eight year old alone with a gun. Second of all a .22-250 is too small for deer.

Did I miss something in the first post? I didn't hear him say the eight year old was going to be alone with a gun

As for the second comment, as said above is utter RUBISH! Either the Barnes 53g TSX or the 60g Partition would be great bullets for this application. Make him practice and tell him good luck with his first deer!