Does anyone have any experience shooting this caliber at long range or at varmints? I am thinking about building a custom rifle for long range chuck hunting and some target shooting at ranges from 600 to 1000 yds., since I already have a custom 6MM Remington to shoot upto 500+yds. I don't know if I should throat it for the 100 gr. ballistic tips or the 108 gr. JLK's or other VLD's. I was going to build a 6.5-284 but you can't use bullets over 100 grains for calibers over 25 here in New Jersey. If I buy 6.5-284 Lapua brass will I have to ream it after sizeing it down? I will get a tight neck chamber so I will be neck turning. What kind of accuracy can I expect with this caliber or should pursue another quarter bore? Is it overbore? Could this caliber be competetive at 1000 yards?
I would like to thank everyone for their information.

If it's primarily target shooting up to 1000 yds the latest, as of three days ago, is the 6mmX twisted 7.5 shooting the 115's.

We have come full circle back to the 6mm Lee Navy!

Check in with Big Stick over on 24hourcampfire. He shoots a .25/284 presumably at long range.

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Originally posted by Hogman:
I was going to build a 6.5-284 but you can't use bullets over 100 grains for calibers over 25 here in New Jersey.

Could you please explain this? Is this a rule of the competition or what?

I don't know about any rules there, it seems that new jersey has some very strange laws about guns, or at least the law enforcement acts in strange ways about guns. A guy from here in utah was traveling to PA to pick up an old BMW that he bought, he is a CCW holder here in utah and takes his pistol with him everywhere he can. he put the gun in a locked case, then put the ammo in a seperate locked case, declared it did, filled out all the papers, ie by the book, he had a stop in newark before going to PA, but his flight was late getting to newark and he had to overnight in newark. He went the next morning declared his gun filled out the paper work, went to go through TSA, and some port authority asshole, arressed him and put him in jail for 9 days, the judge set bail at $25000, he finally got out, but the bail had to be made in cash in person, the wouldn't let him use any credit cards. He went back for trial the judge didn't show up, was set to go back again, then they dropped the charges, but they still refuse to return his gun. There is so much more to the story about how this man was treated by new jersey. It sounds like cummunist russia or something not the US. Needless to say the NRA has taken up the case, is paying for everything, and new jersery has an open and shut, bend over and grab the ankles law suit against them. and I hope they get sued so bad they really feel it

The below regulations apply to woodchuck shooting only:

.25 caliber or less:
Hollow point, soft point or
expanding lead core bullets of
any weight.


Larger than .25 caliber:
Hollow point, soft point or
expanding lead core bullets of
any weight not exceeding 100
grains in weight.

I've worked with and loaded for a good friend's .25-284 since he built it in 1969. We'll be going prairie dog hunting with it again in May. He made the record shot on our last outing at 525 lasered yards.

1. The availability of 6.5-284 brass makes forming .25-284 brass a slam-dunk. You're only reducing by .007", which is hardly more than resizing fired brass in the same caliber.

2. Unless you have a VERY tight chamber neck, you won't need to do anything to thin the resized necks. I do trim and chamfer the necks of the .25-284's I form from WW .284 brass, but don't have to thin it.

3. Don't hang your hat on any one bullet. Nosler Ballistic Tips are typically very, very good, but there are occasionally otherwise very accurate guns that may not like them. I use Sierra 75 gr. HPs at 3775 fps (26.5 inch bbl) as the standard PD load. A heavier bullet might be more consistent beyond 400 yards, but the lighter bullets recoil less and make up some of the lower BC in higher velocity.

4. And, oh yes, I don't think there is anything to recommend the .25-284 over a .25-06. The theory of "short-fat" cases being more efficient is pure baloney, and while there is some evidence that they may be slightly more conducive to consistent accuracy, the evidence is less than conclusive, and the difference, if any, is negligible. The only reason that my friend built his gun in .25-284 instead of .25-06 is that in 1969 the .25-06 was still a wildcat. Surplus 4831 was by far the most popular powder for the .25-06, and "cautious" reloaders would frequently start with very light charges in their new wildcats. As a result a disproportionate number of .25-06 shooter experience the Secondary Explosion Excursion phenomenon that can sometimes cause catastrophic pressure spikes with light charges. Hence, the .25-06 had a reputation for "blowing up guns" and the custom smith recommended against it for that reason.

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Originally posted by cummins cowboy:
A guy from here in utah was traveling to PA to pick up an old BMW that he bought, he is a CCW holder here in utah and takes his pistol with him everywhere he can. he put the gun in a locked case, then put the ammo in a seperate locked case, declared it did, filled out all the papers, ie by the book, he had a stop in newark before going to PA, but his flight was late getting to newark and he had to overnight in newark. He went the next morning declared his gun filled out the paper work, went to go through TSA, and some port authority asshole, arressed him and put him in jail for 9 days, the judge set bail at $25000, he finally got out, but the bail had to be made in cash in person, the wouldn't let him use any credit cards. He went back for trial the judge didn't show up, was set to go back again, then they dropped the charges, but they still refuse to return his gun. There is so much more to the story about how this man was treated by new jersey. It sounds like cummunist russia or something not the US. Needless to say the NRA has taken up the case, is paying for everything, and new jersery has an open and shut, bend over and grab the ankles law suit against them. and I hope they get sued so bad they really feel it

Assuming this is a true story it needs to see press all over the shooting press of the USA.....and not only should the State of New Jersey pay damages and punative there needs to be personal charges bought as well.