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High Speed Camera for Bullet Pics?
07 February 2003, 03:45
m1rageHigh Speed Camera for Bullet Pics?
Does anyone know what equipment would be needed to take high speed pictures of bullets? Approximate cost? A good supplier? I know I probably need something in the 1000 frames per second speed, but have no idea what I really need. Thanks for any help!
07 February 2003, 03:49
Pecos41I know you better have deep pockets!
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07 February 2003, 04:01
<green 788>I took this photo with a Vivitar Vivicam 10, which I got from Walmart for 49.95, plus tax...
Just kidding... A fellow forum member, Turok shared this site with me. Here's the link:
http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/Bremse/Muendungswolke/Muendungswolke.htmlEnjoy!
Dan
07 February 2003, 04:32
<t_bob38>Are you talking about motion pictures or still photos? I often visited Doc Edgerton's lab where early high speed still photos were taken. For that you need a good camera, a highspeed strobe light and a triggering device.
07 February 2003, 04:53
DeraldAlmost any decent strobe will stop a bullet-- what you need is a couple of fine wires stretched in front of the barrel. as soon as the bullet touches them, it completes the circuit and fires the strobe. Of course you'll have to anchor the muzzle down so the bullet path won't wander too far from the wires and you may have to take several shots to get the picture you want.
07 February 2003, 05:09
m1rageAlthough video would be really cool, I doubt that I can afford it, it is just a hobby after all. What I'm really trying to accomplish is getting pictures of bullets passing through gelatin, apples, melons etc. I would like to get pictures before, during and after the bullet hits the target. A bullet coming out of a barrel really doesn't interest me. I'm more interrested in what happens to the bullet after it hits the target.
07 February 2003, 05:17
NitromanDo a search on google.
Go to amazon.com and begin searching "ultra high-speed photography", look for textbooks as these will tell you "how to".
You are correct in the cost of video. I telephoned a company just for kicks and was quoted ~$20,000.00 for a video capture system capable of taking slow motion digital pics of bullets ect. You can lease for ~$2,000.00 per week. If you want to go
really fast you'll need a rotating mirror camera...up to 3 million frames per second.
You can get ultra high-speed cameras and film cameras from the gub'mint but you'll have to know how to rebuild them.
07 February 2003, 06:35
m1rageThanks everyone for your help! It appears that I'm going to have to either find a cheaper hobby or find a way to get a research grant from Gov't. If I had $20,000 grand to spend I think it would be better spend on a nice hunt. Again, thanks
10 March 2003, 02:10
<bullpup>Then try it here:
http://www.zurzzeit.dePhoto above ist also made with one of those
cameras.
And interesting other photos and movies on the
page, too.
10 March 2003, 05:03
<JBelk>M1rage---
It's fairly easy to do. All you need is a strobe, any camera with a "B" setting (time exposure) and some rather innovative circuitry.
Using microswitches or simple screen wire and a control box that fires the strobe either when a circuit is broken or completed, depending on how you set it up, the only other thing you need is a TOTALLY dark space where the picture is taken.
The camera is set on B and the gun fired. When the circuit is completed to the strobe it fires and the only image recorded on the film is the one at the instant of the strobe.
I haven't done it in 40 years, but I got some really NEAT pictures of an exploding Citron (wild melon of the south) hit with a 303 British. I used a refridgerator box layed horizonal and painted black inside with a stand for the melon.
The trigger was a piece of door screen layed on top of the melon for one side of the circuit and a wire through the top of the box as the other. When the melon blew it threw the screen against the wire and fired the strobe I'd borrowed from my eigth grade science teacher.
Be SURE to use a piece of pexiglass in front of your camera.
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10 March 2003, 13:34
LE270quote:
Originally posted by Derald:
Almost any decent strobe will stop a bullet-- what you need is a couple of fine wires stretched in front of the barrel. as soon as the bullet touches them, it completes the circuit and fires the strobe.
Why not rig up a microphone as the device to trigger the strobe? That way, you can adjust the time that the strobe fires by moving the microphone closer to or farther away from the muzzle?
10 March 2003, 14:30
NitromanIt is much easier to use a laser trigger with attached timer (~$1,200.00).
I went into this a bit deep. I corresponded with a professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology in New York regarding this. This is what he teaches. Industrial photography with stills, film, and digital. In his first semester he teaches the students how to build their cameras to take Schlerer photos.
I threw him $20.00 and kind words, he sent me his syllabus and all his handouts for his class.
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All I have to do is buy the two books he recommended and have the time to read them, I will be good to go. After school (yawn).
[ 03-10-2003, 05:31: Message edited by: Roger Rothschild ]10 March 2003, 14:43
waitaminitLet me correct bullpup's typo - it's
www.kurzzeit.deand well worth a visit.
11 March 2003, 09:43
andrew375See my posting on the Technology forum.