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Thought I asked this yesterday but don't see it on the thread. Read an American Rifleman from 1978 and saw and add for these bullets. Anyone here use them? Thanks, Ski+3 Whitefish, MT | ||
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I liked the 120 gr. solid base in the .25-06. It penetrated well and maintained about 50% of its original weight. Very accurate also. To bad they don't make them any more. Much better than the ballistic tip. | |||
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I used 100gr in a 243 with sucess, also 120s in a contender 7mm tcu, still have a few left. They shoot great. | |||
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Yes. They were the predecessor to Ballistic Tips. In fact older BTs said Solid Base on the green/red box of 100. I still have some left in 22, 26, 28, & 30 cals. They came 100 to a box, were cheaper than even Ballistic Tips, & they never worked very well for me. Horrible accuracy & dismal game performance. Especially stay away from the 25 cal 100s. You all should send me all you can find so I can dispose of them properly for you. | |||
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I found some at a discount not too long ago. (2 boxes for $20) .308 150 grain. They shot really well, without a work up- I like them better than the Ballistic tip for accuracy, but with only 2 boxes, used them up rather quickly. I didn’t use them on game. The ones I had said match (150 grain Nosler solid base match, to be exact). If I found more, I’d have no concerns buying and using them. | |||
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I have used the 52 grain solid base soft point in a 220 Swift. Loaded to about 3800 fps, extremely accurate. | |||
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I have a supply of my favorite, the 120 solidbase in 6.5. I use them for deer loads in all my dozen or so 6.5 cartridges. Never had anything but good luck with them since they came out, hated when they went to the ballistic tip. | |||
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I have a lifetime supply of 130 grain .277 solidbase bullets for my .270 WSM's and the invoice shows I paid $4.95 a sack for blems. They shoot extremely accurately and perform nicely on Deer sized game. I just couldn't pass them up when offered years ago and will never regret it. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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More recently I liked the Bonded Solid Base 224”, 64 grain. They have the thick copper base and expanded quickly. Good on coyotes. Sadly discontinued, but I stocked up while available. Have learned bullet manufacturers are notorious for discontinuing bullets that are good but have low sales. | |||
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They were accurate in several calibers. The performed well for me on deer, antelope and plainsgame. I hated to see them go down the tube.. It seems to me the Balistips are the same, but seem to be a bit softer so you best not drive them as fast..Ive found the Balistips devastating on small deer at about 2500 to 2600 FPS..Drive them faster and they sometimes lose the core, but still kill deer well.. I think the Accubonds are by far the best bullets for deer and even elk, much the same as the Nosler partition.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Me too. But I'm not sure mine are blems. They're packaged in boxes of 50, and I have at least 1000 bullets. I think they were an overrun and the price was so good I couldn't say no. Some of them have cannelures some do not. They shoot well. | |||
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The original Nosler Solid Base bullets were packaged in red/black boxes of 100. Some were available as "seconds" or "blems" in plastic bags. A few years ago the Nosler outlet store (Shooters Pro Shop) sold some of them as overruns in white or tan boxes of 50. All were A few years ago Nosler was still producing them to sell to ammunition companies, which is where the overruns came from. I'm not sure if they are still being produced or if the dies and other equipment for them finally wore out. | |||
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I used the 140 grain in my 7 mag, very effective on deer. NRA Patron member | |||
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Back in the day, I used the Solid Base a ton in the 25-06, 270 and 280 and a bit in the 243. The SB bullets always shot well in my rifles and killed deer, antelope and sheep DRT. I doubt I have any left and so I have converted to other projectiles. I used the Partition for elk, moose and bear. Zeke | |||
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I checked my reloading room shelves and discovered the the Solid base bullets I got such a good deal on were all first run bullet in white boxs. 130 grain .277 caliber. They shoot with great accuracy for me and several of jy buddies. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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Probably killed more deer with .277 130gr Nosler Solid Base bullets than all other brands combined. Still my go to bullet in my .270 Winchester. Like most flat base bullets they are WAY easier to get to group well than boattails. Nosler Solid Base bullets all gave me great sub-moa performance in my rifles without much load work at all. | |||
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Some people call the Nosler Solid Base (and Ballistic Tip) a boattail, although I wouldn't classify them that way. But they did have a small boattail-like bevel of around 45 degrees at the base. This made them easy to seat without shaving any jacket material on a sharp case mouth. | |||
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In 2008 I shot a smallish bull moose at about 75 yards. It dressed at 525 lbs. I used a 308 win loaded with a 165 grain solid base. The first shot, behind the shoulder seem to have no effect. As he trotted off I shot him again in the neck . Both bullets fragmented, I found just bits and pieces. The load of 44 grains of IMR4064 is fairly mild at about 2600 fps , very accurate, but I'll never use them on moose again. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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Thanks for this. My bullets have a very short bevel at the base, and I thought of them as "sorta boat-tails." I was half-way questioning whether or not, after reading what others had written, those folks and I were talking about the same bullets. | |||
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Are you sure you were using the bullets we're speaking of which have lead noses? The performance you describe sounds more like the Ballistic Tip with its plastic nose (which also uses a solid base). Regardless, critiques of bullets taken from dead game seem quite counter-intuitive, given that the bullet did that which was intended. | |||
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I shot Solid base Noslers years back in 30/06, maybe other cals too. Been to long can't remember. I bet I still have a few. They quit making them years ago too. Billy, High in the shoulder (we band of bubbas) | |||
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I am admittedly unsure if they had green tips or not. I am sure that they were Nosler solid base. At the time they were the only soft point I used in that rifle. A friend of mine, has small stash of the green tipped ones he uses for deer. He swears by them, and elements the day he runs out. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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Thanks guys. I learned something! Ski+3 Whitefish, MT | |||
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I have a box of 100 Nosler Solid Base bullets - .308" 180 grain green tipped bullets in a red and green box marked; 100 Solid Base Boat Tail 30/180 Ballistic Tip This was when Nosler was in Beaverton, OR. | |||
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Okay, let's get our nomenclature straight: The original Nosler Solid Base bullet had a lead tip. It was, generally speaking, a fairly deep-penetrating bullet as cup-and-core bullets go, in part due to the small mass of solid jacket material at the base of the bullet. Nosler stopped selling this bullet at retail many years ago. This was, incidentally or purposefully, about the same time that they introduced the "Ballistic Tip". The "Ballistic Tip" had the now-famous hollow point jacket filled with a pointed plastic tip. It shared the same base design as the prior "Solid Base" lead nose bullets; however it was a somewhat more rapidly-expanding bullet due to the design of what amounts to a hollow point. Both bullets had the term "Solid Base" on the label, but when we speak of the "Nosler Solid Base" bullets we're speaking of an out-of-production bullet which had a lead nose -- not the bullet with a solid base and plastic nose. If it has a plastic tip (color coded by caliber), then it is a Ballistic Tip. If it has a lead nose then it is a Solid Base. To confuse matters a bit more, several years ago Nosler introduced their Accubond, which is essentially a Ballistic Tip with its lead core chemically bonded to the jacket to make it a deeper-penetrating and less frangible bullet. Even these newer Accubonds use the original solid base design. | |||
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Thanks for the precise definition. | |||
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There were also the 22 Nosler Zipedo, 55 grain I think. Had driving bands on the bullet shank. | |||
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Yes, they were a great bullet also. I actually killed two deer with one shot using the 55 grain Zippedo. It went through one deer's neck into the other's, and both fell like hit by lightening. There was also a 6mm Zippedo. | |||
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The good solid base bullets I remember where plainole lead tipped with a thick base..The early green tipped ones as I recall blew up on a deer and killed him instantly but his lungs looked peppered and the entrance hole was about 3 to 4 inches and nod exit..range was 250 yards on a 10x10 mule deer, instant kill, he reared up and fell over backwards and never kicked, but that is poor performance. I still have tha box of bullets, use them on coyotes.. All in all Ive used the Accubonds almost exclusively the last few years, and 110 % perfect performance in my .338s, and 30-06s. May be my all time favorite bullet even on the big stuff and culled small white tail with the 200 gr. accubond in my 30-06 as well as elk with it and the 225 gr,.338 Thats extreme, but they work on everthing so far. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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