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Have both in 130 gn for my 270. Both shoot under MOA out past 200m. The Barnes I used a couple of weeks ago on a goat hunt. Animals ranged between 45 and 95 kg. All shots were heart , lung shots.One goat ran about 30 m before dropping on a two lung shot.Found a large spray of blood on bush behind and followed blood trail. Others dropped where they stood. Haven't used GMX in field and keen to get feedback from hunters who have used them.The Barnes were doing 3050 fps. Wondering if I should just sell GMX and not even both hunting with them rob "the older I get, the better I was" | ||
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I have used them both...find them to perform about the same Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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rob, I'd go ahead and try them because I think you'll be amazed at the difference. Each produce extraordinary accuracy outa the two barrels in which I've tried both brands of bullets. A Blaser R93 with a 25-06 Remington (Hornady 90 gr. & Barnes 100 gr.) and 300 Weatherby (150 gr. Hornady & 168/180 gr. Barnes). Almost everything I shoot with a Barnes in both cartridges drops at the the shot and those few that don't wobble a coupla of steps and expire. Got few back on larger African Plain game with the 300 Weatherby and they appear just like their advertisements. I use the Hornady 150 gr. GMX's last year in the Witherbee and while everything (mostly Red Deer & Wild Boar) expired they ran much further than with the Barnes; one large Stag ran over 200 meters with an X-ring Heart shot. Personally, I think it's exactly what both Company's describe, one bullet is pure copper and the other guilding metal - which is harder? If you really require penetration my take-away (not scientific) is that the Hornady's hold together a tad more. Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Just my observations from playing with both bullets on my reloading bench. The GMX bullets seem harder than the Barnes so I'm wondering at their expansion. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with the GMX on animals yet, just paper and they do about as well as the Barnes TSX in my 270. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I've used the Barnes TSX and TTSX on deer,elk moose and black bears over the last 15 years with no problems. I have used a couple GMX bullets on deer.(130 gr 277 and 165 gr 30 cal).I don't think the GMX opens up as fast as the Barnes. I would not be concerned about using the GMX bullet in calibres that have high terminal velocity. I might be concerned about using the GMX in std calibres that do not have a high remaining velocity. I think it would at least be a good idea to try some expansion tests if you are planning on using the GMX bullets in a calibre such as the 308. | |||
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I used tsx's in Africa and Nosler etips in Alaska. Basically, flip a coin. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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