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Glanced at a Usa Today this morning, copper prices are down about 23%. Wonder what this means for the prices of ammunition and other components. Only other commodities that didnt drop were gold and pork bellies! Auburn University BS '09, DVM '17 | ||
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they're down over 50%, steel is dropping, stainless is dropping fast, aluminum is droping too, but slower | |||
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I seriously doubt we will see a drop in component prices. What goes up doesn't always come down. | |||
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Same is true for the price of Crude and Gas | |||
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and when have lower wholesale prices ever translated into lower prices for us mere retail consumers? lol | |||
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Buy any gasoline lately? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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It's been my personal observation the consumer gets shafted no matter what wholesale prices are !. A bit off subject but Fuel is a Keene example over in the States it varies by more than $ 1.25 US per gallon why is that ?. I can surely understand a few cents , say even $.40 for delivery in difficult locations but in excess of a dollar ! ?. When we were traveling some time back most of those out of the way places were less expensive than major city's ?. Strange lot over there . | |||
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Doc 224, What you're seeing is variance in the excise tax charged by states. In the US an excise tax is added into the price. Sales tax is added on after the price. For example in California there is an excise tax of 30 or 40 cents a gallon, I don't remeber which. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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its all related to the depression. | |||
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The Chinese have stopped buying scrap metals!! I wonder what that means? They've now got as much as they needed?? Anyway, even gold is down now. As for the prices of components, "what goes up, must come down", except for prices, that is!! Once the bastards have learned how much we'll pay for something, the price rarely drops below that level, unless consumers STOP BUYING, such as gas prices. Diesel is still high....... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Vapodog - Funny you should ask. pulled into a shell station and paid 2.89 this morning. Got to the corner store next to the range I shoot at and they had it for 2.59.... what a great country! | |||
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The cost of crude per bbl has dropped somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% since the wall street fiasco, and yet its only gone down something like 25% at the pump... IE; We're getting screwed!! I expect the same is and will be true with components. | |||
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So what else is new, eh?? Diesel hasn't come down at all. "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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It is simply criminal behavior by refinery's and Oil Executives . It cost far less to crack diesel than gasoline , it produces less emissions and in most cases better mileage . Oh yes that's why the prices are held artificially high !. | |||
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$2.29 here in Eastern Iowa this morning heading to the range. And the price of Hornady .308 150 gr SST's has dropped a bit. | |||
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Doc, I worked in the energy field for a while, and the reason that diesel is higher has more to do with the US tax structure and EPA regs than anything. | |||
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Yep! That is WAY out of proportion too! I have driven trucks since the early 80's and the only thing I can figure (beyond the blatant greed) is that the demand for diesel is enormous!! The increased amount of rural truck traffic in the past decade is incredible. I have a friend who runs the control room in a local refinery and he said to me about a year ago that their tanks are constantly tickeling the "E" mark. Last year it got so bad at one point that they quit selling to some companys. I was VERY concerned that my company was going to tell me to stay home because they had no fuel!! Apparently people around these parts arent properly inflating their tires..  | |||
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Well, don't buy gas in Roseburg, Oregon!! When my wife was there last week and filled her pickup it was still about $3.25 per gallon...and that town's right ON I-5!! No transport problem there...Heck, the same day Florence, Oregon price was reportedly about .$2.89, and that is nearly 60 miles of crooked road off of I-5.... They shaft us everywhere they can. Of the various industries I worked in at the senior executive level, energy and health care were the two I had the least respect for. | |||
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