I was offered the chance of buying a few hundred of these bullets at what I believe to be a good price: 10 Euros ($15)/100.
Are they any good?
Is this really a good price?

B.Martins

I've never used the 175. I used the 160 Grand Slam years ago in a 280. Only ended up taking a Mule deer. They worked ok. For that price hard to go wrong. They are around $33/50 over here.

At $15/100 I'd still not buy them

1. They are a standard cup and core bullet...
not at all a premium bonded bullet

2. I've shot them in .25 caliber and in .30 caliber and was not happy with the accuracy at all.

I have no doubt they are fine as a terminal performance bullet.....but I have never shot them at anything as I never got them past the target range.

It's an attractive price.....ya just got to wonder why!!!!!

You won't find TBBC or Northfork or Woodleigh or A-Frames that cheap!

You might want to buy 50 and test fire them in your gun....if you like the accuracy then buy them all.

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I used the 160 Grand Slam years ago in a 280

Darn my swiss cheese memory at work again. I used Magtip. I have never used the Grand Slam.

Sorry for any confusion.

I've loaded the 175 grain Grand Slam at various times in my 7 mm Rem Mag with excellent results. It is a good bullet that will work well here in Canada for moose and elk, black bear and mule deer. Sounds like a good price to me.

I've never used the 175gr but I know that the 160gr Grand Slam is an excellent elk/mulie bullet. The ones I use are the old style double core ones. They were trying to achieve a partition bullet without a partition: soft nose core with a harder mid and heel core.
The expansion on the modern version is controlled by the cup contour (I believe). They are not bonded but who cares. I'd buy 'em in a heartbeat.

I used some 180 Grand Slams in a .300 Win Mag. I shot an elk at around 225 yards and hit some bone. The bullet completely fragmented. The meat was peppered with thousands of pin head sized pieces of lead. I won't ever use them again , at least for hunting !!

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The ones I use are the old style double core ones. They were trying to achieve a partition bullet without a partition: soft nose core with a harder mid and heel core.

I believe that the ones these guys are selling are indeed the old style. They used to import Speer bullets and RCBS equipment but have stopped importing a few years ago.
The reason for the low price is probably just that: discontinued old stock.

B.Martins

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Originally posted by b.martins:

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The ones I use are the old style double core ones. They were trying to achieve a partition bullet without a partition: soft nose core with a harder mid and heel core.

I believe that the ones these guys are selling are indeed the old style. ...

Hey B.Martins, Sounds like you have tripped onto an excellent deal "if" they shoot well for you. And a fine deal if they hold half the diameter of the Kill Zone at any distance you intend to shoot at Game. Still an OK deal if you find they don't shoot well in your rifle and you relegate them to Fire Forming duty.

Stillbeeman described them fairly well with few words. The ones of that era were built with a bit thicker Jacket than a Standard Grade Bullet. (The newer version is even thicker.) They inserted a Harder slug nearest the Base and then poured in a molten core atop it(which when cooled is malable) to create expansion. The front portion is basically a Flat Tip Hot-Cor Bullet.

Depending on the estimated Impact Velocity, dictates where the Bullet should be placed. I can see how Bowhuntrrl got the results he did if the Impact Velocity was HIGH and he hit a Heavy Bone on entry.

It is important to remember this Design is no longer in production. Deeper penetrating, less expansive Bullet Designs have replaced it. Dosen't mean the old Design is useless though. I still have a good many of the old Design in the 145gr 7mm version. Never had a problem of any sort with them on-game.

Sounds like a great Bargain to me. Best of luck to you.