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Finally I am getting around to developing a new "target" load for my .308Win. Looking over the components easily available "off the shelf" at my local gunshop, I settled for Lapua 10.85g Pinnoitettu Luoti heads, new Lapua cases, Ramshot TAC powder and Federal Gold Medal Match Large Rifle Primers. The Lapua heads are a 168grn moly coated HPBT bullet and intend using the loading data in the RAMSHOT booklet for the 168grn moly coated Hornady HPBT as the nearest equivilent.

I intend to load 9 roads each (3 x3 round groups)with .75grn or 1 grn steps between the batchs. Once I find a promising batch, I will refine that in .5grn steps.

No to my questions:

Is there anything different I should be aware of new using moly coated bullets or when developing loads for them?

Will I have any problems switching between shooting my hunting loads (which are non moly coated) and these moly coated Lapua?

Does the unfired/new brass need any special preparation? I assume I can just prime them and load away?

What is the best procedure for determining the best bullet seating depth? In the past I have settled on a "guesstimate" depth, determined the best load at that setting, and then tried varying the depth slightly to see if I can improve the group size.

I don't have a chrono nor any bench rest quality loading kit just pretty standard RCBS stuff and I am not entering any competions. This really is just a "learning excerise" to see If i can ring the best possible groups out of my rifle, my equipment and myself!

Thanks in advance,

Pete
 
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Pete, Iam NOT a reloading expert, or any other for that matter, but I believe you may want to resize those unfired cases first, and then prime and load...sakofan..
 
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Pete,

The moly coating leaves a residue in the barrel that is hard to remove. It is best to not switch from one to the other without a thorough cleaning in between to remove all traces of moly or copper fouling.

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You should "season" your bbl with something like Lymans Super Moly Bore Cream, or simply spray some MSMoly on a patch and run it thru your bbl,otherwise you may be disapointed with somewhat erratic results,until you'v ran 20-30 rounds thru it and the moly settles in.As far as brass prep,use a VLD chamfering tool,such as Lymans(starting to sound like I work for Lyman! [Eek!] ),it has a 22 degree taper as opposed to the 45 on most tools,and you won't be scraping the moly off as the bullet enters the neck of the case.Midway carries them for about $6.Also if you use any other data that isn't specifically for mollied bullets,you MAY have to increase the powder charge,by 1 gr-1 1/2 gr to achieve the same velocities,due to the decreased friction/pressure.Though that would be tough to call without a chronograph.
All that said,shooting mollied bullets is new to me also,but I did have some good help and advice to get started.
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Thanks for the input guys....however I am begining to think moly bullets might be more trouble than they are worth!

Regards,

Peter
 
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Originally posted by Pete E:
Thanks for the input guys....however I am begining to think moly bullets might be more trouble than they are worth!

Regards,

Peter

Pete,

I tried some combined technology lubalox coated BTs a while back in my 243. Lubalox is less slippery than moly I think.

I found that POI started to drop after about 5 shots from a clean barrel. This never happened with plain bullets or the identical non coated BTs and was I thought due to the coating starting to coat the barrel and lower pressures.

Hot Core wrote an excellent treatise on moly recently. The bottom line was there had to be a good reason for moly usage and low volume usage was not it......

To me it's yet another variable that I can do without.
 
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