Curious as to who uses what brand dies for 22 Hornet and any issues ?

First- Lee full size die - sizing case to small
Second- Lee Replacemant - cut new brass in 1/2
3rd- Lyman Full size die - sizing cases to small and bullet seater won't go down far enough to seat bullet.

Took lyman die apart and expander shaft has 223 written on it, called Lyman to see if that shouldn't be 224 and they said yes.

Thats a common kind of problem with several brands. I got tired of buying 3 sets to mix and match for results and now go straight to Reddng without hesitation. Better die dimensions are needed for better guns too. Tikka chambers, for example are better dimensionally than Remington chambers for the most part.

RCBS

I use RCBS dies and have not had any issues to date.

All of my dies are RCBS (28 sets) including the 22 Hornet!
I have never had a problem loading the Hornet!
The expander ball in my 22 H die is .223 diameter!
I would guess that it would need to be .223 diameter in order to securely hold .224 diameter bullets!

I use Lee brand dies. which includes the Factory Crimp Die. I haven't had any problems with them yet. All my reloading dies are Lee.

LEE dies for me...Never any problems with the Neck Sizing Die or the Seating Die or the Factory Crimp Die. Always (usually) MOA in my Hornet and .223

Bonanza for the Hornet.
Joe

RCBS

I have RCBS and two sets of Hornady New Dim. Want to buy one?

22 Hornet - RCBS
22 K Hornet - Redding

Lee collet sizer and finish up with Lee factory crimp.

I use LEE dies for my loading, but I have found over the years that 2 maybe 3 loadings per case is about it. In fact I do 2 loadings for 1 cases, then toss it. Hornet brass is not that expensive, and I am only interested in minutre of Javelina/Jackrabbit accuracy. JMO

22 Hornet Redding
22 K Hornet RCBS

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Originally posted by sccm1:
Curious as to who uses what brand dies for 22 Hornet and any issues ?

First- Lee full size die - sizing case to small
Second- Lee Replacemant - cut new brass in 1/2
3rd- Lyman Full size die - sizing cases to small and bullet seater won't go down far enough to seat bullet.

"cut new brass in 1/2" ???

That's a new one one me. What do you mean by this?

From your description of the troubles you're having, it sounds as if you may have an excessively over-sized chamber.

I can't quite imagine a seating die in which the "seater will not go down far enough to seat bullet". Are you sure that you are setting up correctly?

The Lee Collet sizing die. It ended my accuracy problems and extended my brass life dramatically. FWIW, my last Hornet barrel slugged 223.

Also curious about the "cut in half". Are you sure the die didn't finish off an incipient case head separation about to let go? Sounds like whatever you have, the chamber and die dimensions don't match; like Stonecreek suggested.

Thanks for replies,

I'm sending Lyman back and see what happens.

Ric, thanks I will look at link when I have more time.

Stonecreek, The replacement Lee full size die the gun shop traded me out for would cut the case in 1/2 leaving the upper part stuck in die and bottom 1/2 would pull back out with ram. Did this 3 times and gave up. I ordered the redding after that but the gun shop sent me Lyman so it looked like a good die set so kept it and now I,m without die. This was why I posted to see what brands and trouble other people were having in case the Lyman comes back with problems again. Want to buy something that works first time.

I have a Lee Collet Neck Die but the gun which is M6 Scout, will not eject a neck sized case but will full sized. I tried shooting some of these tight cases and it backs primers almost 1/2 way out of case and accuracy about 2' x 4' pattern. Yeah I know, gun but I checked gun and scope and with factory Remington 45gr still just over 1" group at 100yds. The brass is new Winchester brass.

The 1st Lee Full size die and the Lyman die sized the new winch brass so tight that the Lee Trimmer Shaft would not go inside the case without driving it in with brass hammer and if you tried to seat a 40gr vmax anyway it would size the neck itself to force itself in, you can see the entire outline of the bullet thru brass it was so tight.

The Lee bullet seater works fine but the Lyman bullet seater would only go down far enough to start bullet about 2.10" OAL when I need around 1.810 - 1.848". I messed with for hours and it has to be the seater die.
I set the die body (with seater pulled out of die) to where it touched the empty case then barely backed off so it wouldn't crimp then try to seat a bullet and the seater plug would bottom out and thats as far as it would go, I still had 1/4" of threads left on outside of seater plug but it is bottoming out on inside body. I belive either they didn't put enough threads inside body for seater to thread in deep enough or the seater shaft is to short to let you seat bullet deeper. If I turn the die body in anymore it tries to crimp and mess case up.

Bonanza (Forster) - works fine.

Fritz

Sounds like the chamber of your rifle is badly out of spec.

The Lyman seater die could have been sent with the wrong seater plug.

I don't think I've ever heard of such a string of problems with so many different dies.

The little M6 Scout receiver may be flexing on firing. Try reducing your loads about 5-10% and see if that helps.

RCBS never let me down.

Lee. I have always enjoyed their line of products.

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22 Hornet - RCBS
22 K Hornet - Redding

This is what I use.

Lee Collet Dies, though I use a RCBS full lenght sizer once in awhile when needed.

I guess don't see how chamber is out of spec and the factory loads are doing fine and when the dies are what's sizing the brass so small that you have to force the trimmer inside of case to trim and then putting a bullet in the case is so tight that the bullet resizes the brass as it is going in. The bullet deforms the brass so bad I can see the bullets outline plain as day through brass.

Have never had any problems with my other Lee or Redding dies, this was my first Lyman die.

I have went to lightest load and primers still backed out, Gun shop believes where case is being sized so small that maybe by the time the case expands to fit the chamber it is moving farther than it should backing out primers, which I'm not sure.

Lee is a good honest company with quality products. But, it's a hassle getting them to replace things that break. Gotta mail the parts and wait two weeks.

RCBS: just e/m, phone etc and the new parts are on the way right then at n/c.

IF you jack up the body of a die, say by sizing a case with rocks on it you might miss. They'll replace the body, if they can't hone it smooth right quick. Always at N/C.

They'll even replace the plastic boxes, and primer pins all at N/C.

They won't argue, or send nasty notes wanting to know "what did have you been using these for, center punch's??" I got that about a primer pin that's hyped up as" Cannot break". Yeah sure!

They're Perfect measure is good, but, it's sure as hell not PERFECT by a long shot.
I own a bunch of Lee products, and deal with them often. Joe Shono will take care of you right, and right away. BUT: don't never send him, or them cash even for a $2-5 item. You'll never hear from them again, and John won't reply either. Just my experience's with them.

George