I am thinking about giving the Nosler Partitions a try after years of being too short on money (and too frugal) to test drive them.

What weights do you guys prefer in the 270 Win and good ole 30-06?

I was think about going with the middle weight .277 140 and .308 165. What say ye?

The intended targets will mainly be our southern whitetail, but a hog or two does occasionally wonder past.

Thanks,
Mark in GA

PS. My mainstay bullets have been the Hornady Interlock flat-bases. Even if the Partitions work out for me I plan to continue to use the Hornadys for my practice loads.

I would opt for the 130 and the 180, the heavier for hogs, and the lighter for all else. Good hunting

For the white tail i would stick with your hornady. But for a hog mabye you'r 165 grain 30 would be the ticket. ...tj3006

Just to clarify. The 30-06 is my one main hunting rifle. The 270 Win is my hunting buddy's. So, I can't tailor my 30-06 for hogs and the 270 for deer. Both rifles would have to cover both animals readily.

Thanks,
Mark in GA

IMHO the 06 is the perfect platform for 150-165gr. bullets. If you want to shoot 180's and up then go to a 300Winmag.
The 270 loves 130's.
Also IMHO you will only notice the difference between the partitions and the Hornadys in your wallet.

I agree that the foregoing posts make perfect sense - but I've discovered such pleasing accuracy with 160 gr. NP .270s and 220 gr. NP in the .30-06 that I've pretty well stopped using anything else.

They might be heavier than you need in your applications, but their sectional densities are such that you can shoot most anything lengthways or crossways and not give it a second thought - and not wreck much meat at all.

try useing the 200 gn nosler ,get some R 22 and work up to a velocity of 2650-2700 and if its accurate take it out hunting ...this proj is so devestating even on small/light game that it has to be seen to be belived
regards daniel

also if you decide to change over to noslers try the nosler seconds they are significantly cheaper and just as good as the firsts
regards daniel

Mark, I'm pecking this out with the assumption that you own both rifles. With that said I'd be inclined to use 130s in the 270, and 180s in the 06. The lighter bullet will give you the legendary performance 270's are known for, and the same is true of the 180s in 30-06. If you're talking elk and tuskers, I'd up the weight in the 270 to 150s.
The reason I don't recommend 150s/165 in 30-06 is that between the two different calibres, there would be no real difference when loaded to similar pressures. I use and like the 165s in 30-06, but I don't own a 270.

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Mark, I'm pecking this out with the assumption that you own both rifles

buckshot,
Your post is a perfect example of not reading the posts before you reply, because if you had of you would of known that he doesn't own both rifles

130s in the .270, but, go ahead and load up some 140s and give them a spin just for kicks and see how they shoot. My .270 seems to love 130s and 140s. When it comes to the 150s, I'd have a better chance of throwing a rock at the deer and hitting it. JMO

I would use the 130 or 140 gr partitions in the .270. A friend who owns a ranch and guides for hogs uses nothing but 150 gr COrelokts in his .30-06, so 150 gr Partitions should work fine as long as the angle is not too severe. (Don't shoot a pig running away from you in the ass and expect the bullet to get to the lungs, in other words.)

If you want more penetration, go to the 150 in the .270 and the 180 in the '06.

Load 130s in the .270 and 165s in the .'06. If you shoot the 150 in the .270 you have turned it into an '06, IMO; and the .270 was built around the 130s...
And I liked the 165s in my '06. Sadly, it is gone now, but will be replaced sometime soon, I hope...

I prefer the 150 grain PT for the 30/06. They shoot from my rifles, give a somewhat higher speed for better shock than the 165 grain bullets and I've always had an exit wound.

Mark, those are excellent choices. I have killed a lot of game, including quite a few pigs with 165 grain bullets in my 308.
I have used nosler Partitions in many calibers from 243 to 375. I consider it one of the best all time hunting bullets.
You can NEVER go wrong with a Nosler Partition in a suitable weight and caliber for the intended game.

I for one can't tell you what YOU "should" use.

I do own several rifles of each chambering, and this is what I use:

- .270 - standard, non-premium 130 gr. Hornady's for deer & similar light game, Nosler 150 partitions for elk (but I don't use the .270 for elk at all any more if I think much about it).

- .30-06 - Nosler 200 gr. RN Partitions, or the newer spitzer-pointed 200 gr. Partitions if I run out of the RNs. I have killed game up through and including several moose with the 200 gr.Partition with complete satisfaction, and If I could use only one Partition bullet in my life, it would be that one, in a .30-06.

BTW, I never buy "firsts", only "seconds" ordered by phone, delivered by mail, from the Nosler Pro-Shop. Difference is only cosmetic. Both work the same.

Try the 180 partitions for your 06. I use them for deer with 57 grains of H 4831 behind them. I have no experience with a 270(might get one some day)

If you want a lighter bullet try Barnes X in the 06. I have found that a 165 Barnes beast the balls off the ballistic performance of a 180 partition, especially in heavier animals like hogs.

GOOD LUCK

Definitely the 130's in the .270. Though my favorite all time Whitetail bullet in the .270 is the Nosler Solid base (no longer a regular production item).
Hornady Interlocks do fine as do Ballistic Tips or Grand Slams...

My 1st choice would be: .270 140gr , .3006 150gr.

165 gr. Partition has been my do everything load in my 30-06 for years. I load it to 2800 fps and it just plain works. For the .270 I like the 130 gr. bullet. They go together like ham and eggs.

Jeff

I have shot the 180gr Partition at a lot of African game. Most of these have been from launched my 30-338, and have fully pentrated from most every angle. I have never found the need to move to the 200grain bullet for greater penetration. This level of penetration isn't necessary for whitetails, although it would be good for hogs. On the other hand, although the partition will kill both if hit in the vitals, they may travel a good distance before giving up the ghost. They hold together very well, and don't leave a large blood trail in light animals. Although I have seen African trackers track animals across terrain with a minimal blood trail, that kind of expertise is in short supply around here.

I think, were I you, I'd shoot the 180gr Nosler BT. This is stout enough for your deer, and will leave a much larger exit wound increasing the chances that the deer will not run far, and, if so, will be easy to track. It is also stout enough for hogs from the side, although, if I were hunting hogs specifically, I'd use a 180 partition for head on and raking shots. Another appropriate bullet would be the 180grain Hornaday Interlock bonded core bullet. This bullet is more frangible than the Partition for use with deer, but will hold together better for raking and head on shots with hogs.

I would not drop down to a 165gr bullet in a 30-06 because you will find that the 180 driven with modern powders will actually hold its energy and shoot as flat as the 165gr bullet. It will do anything the 165gr will do and do it better. And as mentioned above, I would not go above the 180gr bullet for penetration, unless it was for close range work in the woods where I'd opt for the 220gr round nose. The longer bullet and round nose theoretically make it less likely to be turned by brush than the 165 or 180 sptizers, and the round nose will make certain it opens up at the lower velocities on the deer. It has the mass to move right on thru your hogs.

With the 270, the 130grain partition is just plain hard to beat for most anything you'd like to shoot with that cartridge down here. When I took mine to Africa, I used 150gr Partitions, but you loose the cartridge's long range potential. As suggested above, the new 140gr bullets might be a nice compromise in this caliber. Remember that the 270 was developed to shoot at higher pressures that the 30-06, and as a result, you can't play around as much with the published upper end as you might with the 30-06. Kudude

I developed a load for this bullet in my 30-06 using 4350 that pushes it 2700-2750fps. You will find that because of this bullets increased BC, it will shoot as well if not better at long range than a 165gr bullet, which means it is retaining its velocity and it is designed to work from 1900-2200fps, if my memory serves me correctly. This level of penetration clearly isn't necessary on even those big Alabama whitetails, and the

I would use the 180 grain in the .308 and suggest the 130 grain in the .270. You did say Barnes right? If you're going to spend the money anyway, trade up to a Barnes X and get an even higher BC and much better performance...my $0.02 worth...later

to me:

270.. 160 grain Semi Spitzer Partition

30/06 220 grain Semi Spitzer Partition....

NO complaints and no worries..

You do your job, they will do theirs!

cheers
seafire

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kudude:
I have shot the 180gr Partition at a lot of African game. Most of these have been from launched my 30-338, and have fully pentrated from most every angle. I have never found the need to move to the 200grain bullet for greater penetration. This level of penetration isn't necessary for whitetails, although it would be good for hogs. On the other hand, although the partition will kill both if hit in the vitals, they may travel a good distance before giving up the ghost. They hold together very well, and don't leave a large blood trail in light animals. Although I have seen African trackers track animals across terrain with a minimal blood trail, that kind of expertise is in short supply around here.

I think, were I you, I'd shoot the 180gr Nosler BT. This is stout enough for your deer, and will leave a much larger exit wound increasing the chances that the deer will not run far, and, if so, will be easy to track. It is also stout enough for hogs from the side, although, if I were hunting hogs specifically, I'd use a 180 partition for head on and raking shots. Another appropriate bullet would be the 180grain Hornaday Interlock bonded core bullet. This bullet is more frangible than the Partition for use with deer, but will hold together better for raking and head on shots with hogs.

I would not drop down to a 165gr bullet in a 30-06 because you will find that the 180 driven with modern powders will actually hold its energy and shoot as flat as the 165gr bullet. It will do anything the 165gr will do and do it better. And as mentioned above, I would not go above the 180gr bullet for penetration, unless it was for close range work in the woods where I'd opt for the 220gr round nose. The longer bullet and round nose theoretically make it less likely to be turned by brush than the 165 or 180 sptizers, and the round nose will make certain it opens up at the lower velocities on the deer. It has the mass to move right on thru your hogs.

With the 270, the 130grain partition is just plain hard to beat for most anything you'd like to shoot with that cartridge down here. When I took mine to Africa, I used 150gr Partitions, but you loose the cartridge's long range potential. As suggested above, the new 140gr bullets might be a nice compromise in this caliber. Remember that the 270 was developed to shoot at higher pressures that the 30-06, and as a result, you can't play around as much with the published upper end as you might with the 30-06. Kudude

.270.....160 Partition
.30-06.....180 Grain Partition.