Barnes Tripleshock Bullets.....Holy Grail of Hunting Bullets?

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20 April 2003, 16:26

MtnHtr

Barnes Tripleshock Bullets.....Holy Grail of Hunting Bullets?

Anyone purchased these new bullets yet? Latest issue of Rifleshooter has a good article on em claiming some impressive velocity gains. What would a 300WM with a 25"bbl push the 168gr Tripleshock at? 3350fps? 3400fps? Could this be the hunting bullet we have been waiting for? Comments? MtnHtr

20 April 2003, 23:12

sakofan

MtnHtr....what did the magazine say about accuracy?? That always seems to be the rub when Barnes is mentioned.
Iam interested, like everyone, in the next big thing!!!....Holy grail...LOL....sakofan... [Smile]

21 April 2003, 03:13

<eldeguello>

I have had very little experience with Barnes X bullets, but have had very good accuracy results with the Originals I have used.

21 April 2003, 08:14

MtnHtr

quote:
Originally posted by sakofan:
MtnHtr....what did the magazine say about accuracy?? That always seems to be the rub when Barnes is mentioned.
Iam interested, like everyone, in the next big thing!!!....Holy grail...LOL....sakofan...

Sako,
The article explains the "grooves actually increase accuracy by providing a relief valve as the bullet metal flows under pressure while traveling down the bore." Sure sounds convincing to me, the article also tells of a 300Win printing under a .5" using the 168gr Triple-shock bullets. Testing has shown an average velocity boost of 125 to 150fps. This just could be the cat's meow!(grin)

MtnHtr

21 April 2003, 08:33

RIP

They are a crude version of the GSC HV concept. Ought to be better than a plain X-Bullet in most rifles. Some rifles work wonderfully with the plain X-Bullet. Any rifle will work wonders with a GSC HV or FN. A tip of the hat to GSC for this trend. Now I must go email Gerard and Gina and see if I get a response. Does one have to go to RSA to pick up these GSC bullets in person? Am I going to have to resort to the Tripleshocks?

21 April 2003, 09:14

<Lars G>

MtnHtr - you say:

"grooves actually increase accuracy by providing a relief valve as the bullet metal flows under pressure while traveling down the bore." "Sure sounds convincing to me . . . "

To me, it explains how you can lower your pressures and get higher velocity, but it doesn't "convince me" one iota about accuracy. Maybe they mean you will keep maintain your baseline accuracy longer before copper fouling degrades accuracy? How does it convince you?

21 April 2003, 09:34

HunterJim

I am using Mike Brady's North Fork bullets in place of the GS HV -- which I don't seem to be able to get anyway. [Wink]

http://northforkbullets.com/

jim dodd

21 April 2003, 09:39

MtnHtr

Lars,
That was a quote from the article in which Randy Brookes explained how the grooves produce tighter groups. The way I see it, if you are dragging less copper off your bullets as they go down the tube but still aligning with the bore you are going to see better accuracy. Everyone knows excess copper fouling degrades accuracy, perhaps some barrels are more prone than others. Read the article, then decide if you want to try these bullets out. MtnHtr

21 April 2003, 15:52

Rusty Gunn

I've read the same artical. The grooves do reduce pressure, other makers in the past have stated this as well. North Fork bullets are recent example of many grooves being used.
If memory serves, the last page in that same magazine, has as add from Lazeronni. They have a line of bullets, made by Barnes (X-bullets, with groves), coated with Robar NP3, and sold under the Lazeronni name. Interesting. ~~~Suluuq

21 April 2003, 16:13

stevo

The groove, ring, ridges are not really a new concept. The Gs customs HV's are great and I'd still use them if I could get them in short order. Ordered some Groove bullets and will see how they shoot when they arrive. I've heard great things about the above mentioned Northfork bullets-again w/groove, rings whatever you want to call them. I will try the triple shock if the others won't shoot. I definitely think monolithic is the way to go.
One other thing, how many gun writers try a new product and determine it's crap or there is no need for a new caliber, model, weight, accessory, gizmo,clothing, device or product.
Steve

PS Has anybody heard anthing about the new GSc supplier in the states that was supposed to open 2months ago

21 April 2003, 18:35

Atkinson

As far as accuracy and grooved bullets, I have never found a bullet as accurate as the North Forks..BTW they sure do mushroom nice on everything that I have shot with them...Kill Buffalo very well indeed. They are the only bullet that makes a "perfect mushroom" after smashing the spine of a Buff or Eland, nuff said?

22 April 2003, 09:54

Turok

Who cares who invented them, I just want them at a reasonable price, and at a reasonable time. Bring on the triple shoks!

Turok

04 June 2003, 15:18

POP

The new Shooting times magazine has them in an article by Rick Jamison. He shot the 130 Barnes Trip/shocks out of a stock Ruger 77. 55gr of IMR4350 resulted in 3200+ fps and 1.7" at 200 yards.

Did better accuracy and velocity wise than any other 130 if I remember corectly.

Can it be Barnes got the accuracy down????? [Embarrassed]

04 June 2003, 22:39

NBHunter

I'm not sure on the accuracy side, but I know the grooves in them help preassure. I have some X bullets with a crimping groove on them and I have passed Barns' load data with brass that has less room in it. They group about 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" which in the world where they are used is totaly fine.

05 June 2003, 02:31

rifleman1

Just read the Shooting Times article - Rick Jamison did get impressive accuracy results with this bullet in the 270 he was developing loads for - the thing about that article that got me was the Speer Nitrex 130 gr GS factory load - that load cooks.