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I have heard that Hornady is suspending production of over 150 different bullets and loaded ammo cartridges for the rest of 2013 to catch up on the "more in demand" products. I have yet to be able to find the list. Any one have the scoop? The list? There is nothing on their website, nor their facebook page. Not surprising to me as Hornady has a reputation for not being overly responsive to customer inquiries.


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Posts: 515 | Location: kennewick, wa | Registered: 18 May 2004Reply With Quote
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I haven't heard anything about it but it does make sense if they're operating at max capacity to direct their efforts at what's selling.
I know several of the various companies make "seasonal" runs of certain cartridges or components. .300savage comes to mind. They make however much they think they can sell and that's it for the year.


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Just another reason everybody should reload. I can get all the bullets & brass I have the money for, won't need primers unless I live to 200, and the only real problem is getting a few certain powders everybody else is looking for also.

Here in Alaska, the shortage is still alive and well; can't buy the most desirable ammo anywheres so it's probably a good thing for Hornaday to dedicate their production to the areas they are short.
 
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I spoke with Hornady about this very topic less than a month ago, and was told they have added machinery and staff to keep up with demand, otherwise business as usual. Now, everyone who understands the manufacturing business knows that products are make in lots, rotating production to keep up with demand rather than continuous production of everything. For example, I assume that manufacture of 50-grain .224" bullets is done many times a year, while the manufacture of 200-grain .348" bullets may be done once a year, or less depending on demand. So the premise of the thread is true in principle - business as usual.
 
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No product is made 365 days a year; they schedule their machine time to run a specific product at various times during the year and for low demand stuff, that might be only once a year. So, it sounds like business as usual; that is what you do in a business; you allocate your resources to those products that are in the most demand and will bring in the most revenue. You don't make stuff that sells slowly when you could be making something that will turn over fast. Velocity of money and inventory; normal practice. Of course they won't mention this; it will just cause more panic. I do not agree with the comment as to Hornady not being responsive to customers; I have had excellent results with them over the years and they are making some fairly obscure brass and bullets that can't be making much money.
 
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Originally posted by Zhurh:
won't need primers unless I live to 200


So you're the sorry bastard that hoarded all the primers! Wink



 
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...and was told they have added machinery and staff to keep up with demand...


And this is a good thing for everyone concerned.


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The problem with all this is that once all the fear and panic buying subsides, and it will some day, demand will fall like a rock and the producers will be in a position with excess capacity and workers, and that is not good either. People are hoarding everything related to guns now.
 
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Here's the list


http://www.weeniewawa.com/defa..._list_of_bullets.pdf


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A bunch of projectiles for the boomers (.375 and up). Lots of smaller stuff. Graf's is already showing things as unavailable from the manufacturer.

Odd combination of things ... lots of ammo in the 9mm, .45 ACP, .223, and .308 categories.

Very significant I suspect. Something is up.


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Haven't bought any ammo in years, doesn't affect me I guess; and I got plenty of FTXs & XTPs It's all them Hoarders fault, crucification is too good for them.

Just wait until they put a 50% tax on ammo; course that will be the Hoarders fault too.
 
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I sent them an email with the link to the PDF above. We'll see if they reply?


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Hornady's press releases are just a cover. We know that they and all of the other manufacturers are being paid tens of millions by Homeland Security just to keep quiet about shutting down their production lines in order to starve shooters out of all the ammunition. Mark my words, today it's ammunition, tomorrow it will be toilet paper. The Collective is out to control our lives. (BEAM ME UP, MR. SCOTCH!)
 
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Originally posted by Rusty:
I sent them an email with the link to the PDF above. We'll see if they reply?


You and thousands if not millions of other handloaders and shooters. My guess is their switchboard is overloaded and will be shut down and they will not be able to reply to the millions of emails.

Thanks for trying though!
 
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I called Hornady, it is their list and it is indeed true.

Call em yourself.
 
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From Hornady

Product Availability Update

Hornady Makes Plans to Increase Production Volume


For over half a year, Hornady Manufacturing, along with the rest of the shooting sports industry, has experienced an unbelievable spike in demand. This dramatic increase in demand is unprecedented. As stated earlier this year in our Product Availability FAQ we have been continuously growing for a number of years; adding people, equipment and manufacturing space as rapidly as we can. We are producing and shipping product at record levels and are continually looking to grow and improve our ability to fulfill orders. But the current state of the industry is such that our increase in shipments this year is overshadowed by a 200% increase in demand.

One area that we have identified that will enable us to increase production, is the minimization of machinery downtime. The largest period of downtime our machines experience is during change over and retooling to convert a machine from manufacturing one bullet or cartridge to another. Under normal market conditions, we can keep the supply chain full by making popular items on a regular basis and keeping specialty or less-used products on a seasonal basis. However, with demand at record levels, it has become difficult to justify shutting down a machine to change it over to produce a product of less demand. Therefore, we are temporarily suspending some items in order to focus our efforts on the most popular and highest demand products and ship more total product.

We realize that many of the suspended items are going to disappoint some of our customers. We have painstakingly reviewed our order status and order history and unfortunately had to make some tough decisions. It wasn't easy, but we know that we will do a better job of servicing the industry as a whole by focusing on the items of highest demand.

We are not alone; this is effectively already happening throughout our industry, but is accomplished through selective manufacture with no notification to the industry. We are simply making every effort to be up-front about our plans to maximize production.

Again, this is only temporary. This is not a permanent suspension. We will continue to push as hard as we can to meet the demand of our industry and will produce our full catalog of items as soon as we can. Please know that nobody wants to produce more and get our product to into your hands more than we do.

And lastly, we feel compelled to address some of the conspiracy theories that we have seen posted. NO, this is not a conspiracy effort to shape the industry, nor is it controlled by the government. We are simply being forthright about our manufacturing plans and our efforts to supply MORE product to the very hungry shooting sports industry.

We truly appreciate your patience during this period of time. Thank you for your understanding.

The Team at Hornady

The production list can be found here: http://www.hornady.com/support...lity/production-list
 
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If your flavor isn't on the list, this is a great way to get people to buy more.
 
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They should of just told is what they will be producing. The list would be much shorter.



 
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That is their production list...they are only dropping 150 items.
 
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Here is a link to Hornady's site. This show the items that they are going to concentrate on manufacturing. I think I will have no problem finding stuff I like to shoot! This was in response to an email I sent to Hornady!

Production List


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So they are dropping their regular Interlock.



 
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Nothing is being dropped. The suspension is just until the end of the year according to Hornady. The suspended bullets and ammo are slow sellers.



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I must take issue with that. Perhaps the A-max or V-max are not being "dropped" but I know that the 6.5 160 R.N. Interlock has been. I have bought up all I could find as that is the regulated bullet for my 1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer.


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Originally posted by TX Nimrod:
The suspended bullets and ammo are slow sellers.



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I aint buyin it. I see this as a bean counter decision. I KNOW there are a lot of folks that like the plain vanilla interlocks. I think they see an opportunity to rake in some serious cash on their higher dollar slugs. Looks like Sierra and Speer just moved up a notch on MY list.
 
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